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Nothing to do with the owners. There's just a stat for everything now days.

We can comfort ourselves we that then ! I have my new shirt printed it's got 60% possention printed on the back eat your heart out city and united fans

I watched Match of the day again for a 3rd time specifically the Liverpool game. I noticed one major thing.... Mistakes havent been corrected in the midfield and defense when it comes to conceding goals.

If we hadve lost today by Burnley playing some fantastic football id be able to accept that i think in some ways. We lost numerous games last season conceding the same goals as we did against Arsenal and Burnley. I said it after the arsenal game i didnt expect us to win but we wouldnt get away with defending like that and get away with a win ... it happens probably at best 2 in every 10 games.

The fact remains we havent learned from the mistakes of last season. Klavan started making them notably today especially. It takes months for these mistakes to be corrected and going into a rough run of games its gonna be harder than ever to get results. We cant go into every game expecting to try and score 5 and conceding 4. It doesnt work like that which is the main reason we finished 2nd a few seasons ago behind Man city.

CB
LB
DM
Striker
Needed this month ASAP

Over to you Mr Henry !!!

Indeed, our defending has been has been crap for years now and Klopp is struggling to correct it, it's not only the 'unforced' errors but we cannot keep composure when under pressure, Arsenal almost came back last week. Still think we need a top quick DM, not sure if Can can be that player and IMO, we should have the Wijnaldum money to get one.

Not going to happen, probably only a LB and not because of Henry. It is Klopp who preferred to bring Wijnaldum instead of a DM for example, he has to take full responsibility.

exactly. wtf has it got to do with american owners. everyone does that.there are sites and pages and what not doing all that. it cant just be an american thingy

The American point is valid. I don't think Americans truly understand football and what it means to communities.

They don't understand the passion and history of the sport and fail to understand that making money, announcing big sponsorship deals really does not butter up the fans.

I work for an American company, and I can tell you from experience that they are only interested in increasing profits and market share in each quarter. Vast resources are committed to ensure that happens - continuous improvement, statistics and green belt training.

I can also tell you that consumers come down very low on the list.

It is all the mighty profit.

Now I understand how the FSG ownership model works.

Lowering wage bills, replacing high earners with low to average earners, increasing profit by increasing ticket prices and consumption of food/drinks inside the ground.

Increasing capacity including boxes all increases profits

Ensuring net spend is below zero.

All increases PROFIT.

now that teams get more Prem money than is on offer in the CL it also reduces the need to be a CL team.

To be in the CL you need a bigger squad which in turn requires greater overall wage bill.

The balancing point to ensure maximum profit is to therefore consistently finish between 7th and 10th.

And that is the strategy I suspect FSG are working towards.

now I don't like disrespecting opinions, but what a load of sht, we only got behind burnley's midfield once (other than all those poor deliveries from the byline with hardly anyone attacking the six yard box) with coutinho in the first half who hit a pass with the outside of his foot sturridge only metres away from latching onto it, if burnley had kept attacking us we would have got behind their midfield more and actually created chances and situations where we could of got back into the match.

what happened to only expect 1st eh and all that positivity gone so soon?

I thought that this result was predictable. A Liverpool side that is loaded with "tip-toe" players against a side of run, boot and tackle.
2-0 Burnley was a foregone conclusion.

Pizz poor gutless tappetta tappetta Liverpool players and Burnley were laughing at us. Too easy to site back and watch the fairies pass and pass and then knock them off the ball, pass the ball long and score.

I watched the game and within the first minute you could see this would not go well.

Klopp has to take the blame for player selection and tactics.
our squad is better than the 11 that started the game and the slow passing against a kick and run English side is useless unless you have some bullish players in the middle of the park like Millner and Chan, and they were not there.
Klopp fekked up big time in this game.
surely his advisors would have told him that Championship teams are brutal and he would need to have some steel in the side to win this match?
I am also pizzed off because we are Liverpool and this was a cowardly loss that the club should be ashamed of.