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what because it was shades of watford going into it? can you explain what a "tip-toe" player is, lallana, coutinho, firmino? I'd be interested to know how other clubs fans perceive their attacking midfielders. maybe our fans think we should of made efforts to replace firmino and lallana this window?

yes we could of evened it up more and started with 2 central midfielders and pressed (still would of been liable to burnley counter attacking), I wonder if klopp would have done it differently if we could restart the match, both manager and players let each other down. perhaps in future we will adopt a more conservative approach against the lower league sides.

Why no Ings yesterday? Lucas also could have controlled that midfield better if he was available. Klopp got it horribly wrong yesterday, at least we can't play that bad again.

He got it horribly wrong when he sent Flanagan out on loan and sold Smith, leaving us with our weakest left back, and an ageing midfielder as cover. The mind boggles.

I think we can play that badly again, whether we will I sincerely hope not. we could be the only side to lose a match 4-0 this season and still get top four.

I don't know if lucas could have controlled the midfield better, henderson suits klopp's pressing game more, we'd of seen the same sideways stop start passing probably, just not the movement ahead of them and therefore no way through their first bank of midfield.

Player ratings.
Mignolet 6.5 ok.
Hendo mmeh was there and passing with his right ankle. 5.0
Clyne. 6.0 was there.
Lovren. Ok 6.5.
Klavan. good 7
Milner. not fit. not a right back 5.
Wijnaldum. missing in action 5.
Lallana Tried a bit more 7.
Firmino was lost. 5
Couinho was lost 5.
Sturridge was complete poop. trying to be clever with every touch and lost the ball repeatedly

Grujic came on for a few minutes and that was enough for man of the match.

Klopp. 4 out of 10. Very poor team selection and no hunger. No spine in this team AGAIN!!!!!!!! Why did his team have no courage or desire to win this game?????

Milner, not a left back. yes i know. poor typing very angry.

cruising perhaps and didn't have confidence compared to the other side especially after conceding so early.

ok we don't want other teams to have too much possession particularly in our own half. but even if it means turning over possession I'd like to see us go long almost every time they want us to keep the ball, have our front 3 forcing their backline back, be more direct to them. yes if it's intercepted it puts our front 3 on the backfoot but we need to come up with solutions of getting rid of the ball in effect ways.

I'm hoping this is a wake up call for the team and Klopp, sometimes an early defeat can setup a season, so fingers crossed !!!

The problem with all the possession is that teams just get behind the ball and we didn't have the creativity to break it down, we have had this problem for years, Coutinho just didn't look on it with allot of his through balls overrun and his shooting all over, it was a windy day so maybe that made it difficult. Pace is also a way of getting past defences and stretching them, but without Mane we didn't have that, which is also a big worry as we cannot be so dependant on Mane that If he's out/off form we have no pace attacking, the only other player we had with pace attacking from midfield was Ibe and he's gone now, so that reduces our options.

The other thing was that our final balls were woeful, Milner kept trying to cross, but was cutting on his right foot and was hopeless, it's one of them games when someone like Benteke may have helped, lob the ball into him on a windy day and let the attackers run onto him for the lay off, but he's gone now, but we could have tried that earlier with Origi.

The game also showed that Milner is not a LB, he's emergency cover at best.

if anything we have been ffucking pressed in last two games. dont know this wee too hyped *klopps pressing game* .. we dont have right players if its even a thing here at lfc

yep the question is now does klopp adjust his strategy. potentially even using the market, to improve our teams passing, late flight for pastore or someone. and we seemed to have signed wijnaldum as a box to box midfielder, perhaps we should get a better one of those/or a DM-C (hendo's position). I'm not bothered but gigi and firmino, LCM and CST, have been our weak links so far, and we need to get them performing better.

the spine of the team is vital for stability. moreno will have to stick around until january.

say if we did still focus on pressing and changed to a more orthodox 4231 mane doesn't have the creativity, we might have to be a bit imbalanced to still get the best out of him.