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Got to agree.

Absolutely dire.
Just WHY tf he still gets in the team is beyond comprehension.
I shudder when I see his name on the team sheet.
SUCH a liabilty, every bloody game.
What does Mr Klopp see in him please?

yay 1 win!! I'm very happy, I'm not going to celebrate though, gonna put it into perspective, otherwise I'd get really disappointed if we lost a match or if I was watching a match and it wasn't going our way.

no the important thing is how we perform every match for 90 minutes, and have a performance to build on. that doesn't mean try harder, as effort doesn't always equate to performance, we need to try to perfect our effort and performance as I'm sure the group will try to do with klopp before our next match.

We know he's not very good defensively. We've had a whole summer to sort it out.

You can laugh at the mistakes he makes but this has been happening for a while so you can't blame the player.

Either fix his faults (might be impossible), replace him, or put him in the role that suits him more with less defensive responsibility.

like I said on chat though, sign another left back and it's the 4th in 3 seasons, albeit cissoko was loan, so I can see why the club and fsg are reluctant to not sign a new left back, but it's too dangerous to risk playing moreno, even if he was still a good player for us last season despite the many mistakes in defending and not being there to defend.

thought the 343 with wing backs in baines from martinez was clever, but why should klopp change the system for 1 player? even if he will perform better

Great game but quite a predictable result. I think we'll have a good season, but that game doesn't really tell us anything we didn't already know. It was typical of how we played last season. Away to Burnley and Spurs will be better indicators. Hope we sign a left back before the Spurs game at least.

klavan looks a player , plus matip will play aswell , lovren is a good player aswell just need to get empty head moreno out of the side he is very very much the weak link

His confidence is shot. He needs a break. Maybe there is a good player in there and klopp is trying to find it. But he needs competition he needs a break. He needs a confidence boosting performance. And if none of that works he needs shooting.

I think we were very nervous in the first half, and had it not been for Cotutinho’s wonder goal we might well have continued in that vein in the 2nd half too. There are positives to be taken however, the biggest being the 3 points plus the performance of Mane and Coutinho, though his apparent lack of fitness is surprising, but then it was the first game of the season. Clyne put in a good performance too as did Klavan. Windthelump didn’t feature and was pretty invisible, as was Henderson, but to a lesser extent.
I expected us to win easier but we were too patchy, still I’ll take it and I’d expect us to improve as the season progresses, so all good, I still think we’ll challenge this season, having said that though, I feel we’re carrying three significant handicaps 1. Goalkeeping position, 2. left back position, 3. striker position, I know we have players for those positions, but are they dependable and/or good enough? The window isn’t closed yet so fingers crossed.

Maybe Klavan at left back with Sakho or Matip coming in? I think he could do a similar job to what Ivanovic did for Chelsea at right back.

Moreno needs a big rope tied around him, tied to the goal post so he is not allowed over the half way line !!! Gary Neville was very funny commenting on him, he said it's like Liverpool start a goal down when Moreno is playing, that's how it feels.

I was hoping Klopp would be able to work on his defensive side, but I've seen no evidence of it so far, if anyone can, Klopp can, but his patience must be running out. Moreno must also be affecting the defenders and goal keeper, if I was the left side CB i'd be terrified of him, thinking how you have to cover for him, so it must drag them out of position also.

I'm sure with Smith being sold and Flanagan going on loan we must be bringing in an experienced LB. We cannot continue with Moreno as our regular LB and Milner is not the answer, he is cover at best.