KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Premier league predictions 2016/17

The season hasn't started, nobody is making excuses. Your just getting little digs in at our manager before the season has even started. Your also coming out with rubbish like our new signings should be on par with Gerrard and Suarez and if not we should question the manager!

The only one who needs to have a word with themselves here is you!

Can I ask what Liverpool team you have been watching for the last 26 years if you would only class a 2nd placed finish as "acceptable"? And also the bare minimum seen as Rodgers did it! Top drawer logic that!

You'll get nothing but some spouting about FSG and excuses Chris.

Well I can rhyme it for you if you like...

But wilkij dear what is the use,
Of all this thinly veiled abuse,
With language cast a tad obtuse
Like Aesop's Fable!
While heaping excuse upon excuse
For being mid table?

Yeah good one. Still nothing from you though just excuse, excuse again. I thought you had more about you than that.

What I'm trying to do wilkij, is expose this excuse for failure mentality that has taken hold among some mistaken if well meaning fans, following nigh on thirty years of failure. I see it as a kind of unconscious masochism or even sadomasochism that comes with exposure to long periods of captivity or repeated failure. You lads appear to have adjusted your expectations to an acceptance or even an appreciation of failure, maybe even to the extent of subjectively rejecting the thought or argument for demanding success!
What I want you to do is shake off this failure mentality and embrace the expectation of success. I want you to get up off your knees and loudly and consistently demand success, and that goes for anyone else on here that has allowed their expectations to be lowered, whether that be by FSGs spin machine or their exposure to too long a period of abject failure. Yes wilkij old son, up off your knees now!

No, what your doing is passing my opinions of things as excuses and doing exactly what I've been ranted at for over the last few days. You might want to watch that the self styled forum police don't come a ranting at you but as your opinions are one in the same, I doubt that will happen.

I've said this many times now and it's going to be the last, I'm no happier with FSG than the next man. But as I've also said, I'm not going to rant and rave about them in every thread. When they go I'll celebrate along with the rest of you but until then I'll worry about the things in life that I can control and continue to support the team and manager.

Thanks for your time and good afternoon.

Well I can take a horse to the water but sadly, I can't make him drink. Also I note you've dismissed my exhortation with a rather curt dismissal, so all I can hope for is that in the wee small hours alone in your bed, you might recall some of the points I've made above, and who knows?

I'm always busy in the small hours in my bed and never alone.

Plus, I don't need to be led anywhere! Just accept the way I see things in this new age of respecting peoples opinions eh?

ha ha that a rich one coming from you wilkij! Anyway what do you be doing in that bed and is it always with the same bed mate? Bet you're a bit of a ladies man behind that gruff exterior?