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That's all been cancelled out by the signing of his own players this window, plus the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, etc, signed since then. All of which combined should equal one Suarez and a more or less finished Gerrard. They certainly cost as much and more combined. I see no plausible excuse why Klopp should not equal or even better what Rodgers did under similar circumstances, given that he's arguably a better and more experienced manager. You cannot compare the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, Mane, Wijnaldum to a Liverpool Football Club legend like Steven Gerrard or one of the world's best players in Luis Suarez. Big transfer fees doesn't always equal top players. None of the players in the current Liverpool squad are fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Gerrard or Suarez!
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That's all been cancelled out by the signing of his own players this window, plus the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, etc, signed since then. All of which combined should equal one Suarez and a more or less finished Gerrard. They certainly cost as much and more combined. I see no plausible excuse why Klopp should not equal or even better what Rodgers did under similar circumstances, given that he's arguably a better and more experienced manager. You cannot compare the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, Mane, Wijnaldum to a Liverpool Football Club legend like Steven Gerrard or one of the world's best players in Luis Suarez. Big transfer fees doesn't always equal top players. None of the players in the current Liverpool squad are fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Gerrard or Suarez! But Dortmund didn't have players as good as Suarez or Gerrard in his prime. I think they had really good players and Klopp made them really successful - more successful than us in his time at Dortmund - so may be he can do the same with us. Coutinho, Firmino, Can, Mane, etc. aren't going to be as good as Gerrard or Suarez but they can be very very good players like Dortmund had and hopefully we can be as successful.
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That's a good point and the only hope I'm clinging on to.
That job interview was going so well until I realized I was fukked up on acid in the middle of a cornfield naked and talking to a scarecrow.
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That's all been cancelled out by the signing of his own players this window, plus the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, etc, signed since then. All of which combined should equal one Suarez and a more or less finished Gerrard. They certainly cost as much and more combined. I see no plausible excuse why Klopp should not equal or even better what Rodgers did under similar circumstances, given that he's arguably a better and more experienced manager. You cannot compare the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, Mane, Wijnaldum to a Liverpool Football Club legend like Steven Gerrard or one of the world's best players in Luis Suarez. Big transfer fees doesn't always equal top players. None of the players in the current Liverpool squad are fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Gerrard or Suarez! well if the new signings aren't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as a finished Gerrard, and a developing Suarez, what should we be saying about Klopp's signings? Something doesn't fit somewhere, one could say! Anyway Klopp has had his signings, his preseason and three quarters of a previous season, so no excuses, time to shape up and replicate Rodgers achievement and at least challenge for the title, with no less than 2nd, else he's not filling Rodgers shoes as we all expected he would and surpass, no more excuses.
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Suarez was hardly developing when we came second was he?
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Suarez was hardly developing when we came second was he? Well he was very fulsome in his praise for what Rodgers did for his development, so when it comes from the horses mouth you gotta believe man, you gotta believe!
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Suarez could develop under Hodgson he's that good.
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Suarez was hardly developing when we came second was he? Well he was very fulsome in his praise for what Rodgers did for his development, so when it comes from the horses mouth you gotta believe man, you gotta believe! Where have I doubted what he's saying about his development and Rodgers? You said 'a developing Suarez' in relation to our new signings not being as good. But if you're talking about the Suarez of the year we finished second, he was hardly developing was he?
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That's all been cancelled out by the signing of his own players this window, plus the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, etc, signed since then. All of which combined should equal one Suarez and a more or less finished Gerrard. They certainly cost as much and more combined. I see no plausible excuse why Klopp should not equal or even better what Rodgers did under similar circumstances, given that he's arguably a better and more experienced manager. You cannot compare the likes of Firmino, Benteke, Sakho, Mane, Wijnaldum to a Liverpool Football Club legend like Steven Gerrard or one of the world's best players in Luis Suarez. Big transfer fees doesn't always equal top players. None of the players in the current Liverpool squad are fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Gerrard or Suarez! well if the new signings aren't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as a finished Gerrard, and a developing Suarez, what should we be saying about Klopp's signings? Something doesn't fit somewhere, one could say! Anyway Klopp has had his signings, his preseason and three quarters of a previous season, so no excuses, time to shape up and replicate Rodgers achievement and at least challenge for the title, with no less than 2nd, else he's not filling Rodgers shoes as we all expected he would and surpass, no more excuses. Using this analogy then I guess it will be perfectly fine for him to finish 6th in his third season then, if all we are doing is judging him by the previous manager. Surely you must have more brains than to say Rodgers did it so Klopp must as well. The club needs to build for sustained success, not one 2nd placed finish every 10 years! I'd much prefer to see regular Champions League football and 3 consecutive Top 4 finishes than one 7th, one 2nd and one 6th placed finish. We will only improve by competing in the Champions League regularly, one season in followed by 3 or 4 seasons out means absolutely nothing, the 14/15 season proved exactly that!
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well if the new signings aren't fit to be mentioned in the same breath as a finished Gerrard, and a developing Suarez, what should we be saying about Klopp's signings? None of these our new signings have played a competitive game for LFC let alone contributed to successful seasons or trophies won. Yet according to you we should be able to mention them in the same breath as Gerrard already otherwise what is Klopp doing? Absolutely ridiculous.
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