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How someone can still question his quality is beyond me. because 72m is a lot for any player. ive watched him a bit and i like him but is he really worth 72m?
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To answer that question we'd probably have to ask what is 72m worth to us and the club, in shirt sales etc? 50 goals? 100 goals?
Last edited by Torres65; 03/06/16 08:04 AM.
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I don't think the club ever looked at a player with shirt sales in mind.
If they did, we would've signed Honda years ago or even now Son Heung Min.
Higuain is an excellent striker but 72m is really hard to justify. He would need at minimum help us qualify for CL so maybe 20++ goals in the league?
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Isn't his fee closer to £40m? I'm sure that's what I read anyway.
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Hes not worth 72mil. No player over 27 is worth that unless it's Messi or a younger Ronaldo/suarez
However at 4mil if he's interested in us we should be interested in him. He really is that good
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Prob 72m euros, equals £55m which would make more sense. £72m is, as you say Suarez/ Bale level transfer fee which Higuain obvs is not. That said, we all think Coutinho is worth 60m, is he better than Higuain? No. Hard to say, but purely based on the fact Higuain would contribute more than Coutinho in terms of goals, which is basically all that counts for an attacker tbh.
If Coutinho is worth £60m to us, I wouldn't find it that hard to believe Napoli feeling Higuain is worth ~£60m to them.
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Prob 72m euros, equals £55m which would make more sense. £72m is, as you say Suarez/ Bale level transfer fee which Higuain obvs is not. That said, we all think Coutinho is worth 60m, is he better than Higuain? No. Hard to say, but purely based on the fact Higuain would contribute more than Coutinho in terms of goals, which is basically all that counts for an attacker tbh.
If Coutinho is worth £60m to us, I wouldn't find it that hard to believe Napoli feeling Higuain is worth ~£60m to them.
I'm enjoying reading your posts, and I agree that higuain should perhaps be valued higher than coutinho at present, but I would point out coutinho is 23, higuain is 28. not many players are capable of dismantling man city in the league like coutinho did, and mane did when saints were on it. coutinho should be doing that more often and getting more/the best out of him, he is a CL quality player who is arguably under achieving at liverpool. hazard has already won trophies I can't support an attacker's valuation should wholly depend on goals alone.
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I would point out coutinho is 23, higuain is 28. Precisely- Coutinho at 23 and still improving; I hope he's here for the next 10 years. Higuain is the polished article NOW. We pay money, we (should) get goals. If we were the ones buying Coutinho, I wouldn't expect much better outputs over the next couple of years than in the 2 previous seasons, unless he's playing with MSN, Ronaldo, Bale etc. I can't support an attacker's valuation should wholly depend on goals alone. Why not? Sure assists play a part; teamwork, work off the ball etc. all make a difference but but for an attacker, you are judged predominantly on goals. I would personally much rather have someone who scores 30 goals a season but doesn't offer much else in a general sense than a 10G, 10A, involved in lots of creative plays type. For me, it's all about goals for an attacker. Goals win games, pretty skills don't. With all that said, I really don't think we'll be buying a striker this summer unless some mug offers 25m+ for Benteke and I really don't think there's anything in these PSG rumours.
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I would point out coutinho is 23, higuain is 28. Precisely- Coutinho at 23 and still improving; I hope he's here for the next 10 years. Higuain is the polished article NOW. We pay money, we (should) get goals. If we were the ones buying Coutinho, I wouldn't expect much better outputs over the next couple of years than in the 2 previous seasons, unless he's playing with MSN, Ronaldo, Bale etc. I can't support an attacker's valuation should wholly depend on goals alone. Why not? Sure assists play a part; teamwork, work off the ball etc. all make a difference but but for an attacker, you are judged predominantly on goals. I would personally much rather have someone who scores 30 goals a season but doesn't offer much else in a general sense than a 10G, 10A, involved in lots of creative plays type.For me, it's all about goals for an attacker. Goals win games, pretty skills don't. With all that said, I really don't think we'll be buying a striker this summer unless some mug offers 25m+ for Benteke and I really don't think there's anything in these PSG rumours. I agree with you being a fan of purist football, strikers scoring, defenders defending is what I like too. too hard to give a defined answer, but stuff like higuain averages 5.2 shots per game in seria A, so it's a good job he has scored 20+ goals. one of the reasons we signed benteke was off the back of his scoring record
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