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As far as Stan's argument of being ruled by other countries goes (which of course is not the case with members of the EU but lets play along)-
Of the almost 200 current member states (and one observer state) of the United Nations, the British have, at some point in history, invaded and established a military presence in 171 of them.
There are only 22 countries in the World that the British haven’t invaded that are members of the UN.
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Furthermore, we still have 14 British overseas territories.
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You guys don't live in Britain and when you do venture here I bet it's to places like London come to Manchester Liverpool Sheffield or Newcastle to see the real Britain. Since 2010 the government to save money has made £36 billion of public sector cut backs hitting entirely the poor in Britain. In that same period our government has paid £42 billion to the EU to give to other countries. According to the polls half of UK voters want to pull out of the EU they are almost entirely the British poor your assertion of them being right wing racists is so wide of the mark I can't find words to describe how off the mark you are. Come to the real Britain and talk to real people So why is it that the biggest party for leaving is the UKIP? Why is the labour party wanting to stay in Europe? Do you really think that Boris the clown is thinking of the poor? Do you think that your Bank Governor is stupid or lying? And if Britain leaves the biggest market of the world there will be more poor people. The leave campaign is cross party left and right right accross British politics. UKIP is not running the leave campaign maybe your one trip per year to Britain needs to be two you might learn more about our nation. As for the governor of the Bank of England he is a government employee do you not think it's possible the government might have asked him to speak? The party who is openly for the leave campaign is the UKIP, the Conservative is divided and Labour, SNP and Liberals are for stay. Am I wrong? I don't need to travel to Britain for that and it looks like some stupid guys in Britain are unaware of this. In any case, it looks like people in Britain have started to use their brain as the leavers are losing ground.
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As I said, Britain has a veto vote, don't allow these countries that are supposedly taking your money into the EU. Simple. Boris the clown is apparently unaware of this and so are his followers, this is a joke, really.
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Not true, even the failed state you called greece, way to the left want to keep the EU community alive.. regressive to the right politics is not the way to go, leads back in time, darker times. Extreme to the left or right is bad and extreme left are as facist as extreme right. But you get extreme parties when the people are dissatisfied such was the case in the 1930's, We are seeing something similar with the EU today right accross Europe people are rejecting the establishment parties who for years have ignored people particularly on issues like immigration and democracy. The EU is also structurally flawed the euro keeps much of Europe in permanent austerity something I would have thought a revolutionary socialist would have been against. However that's not what you are, are you ? You are a guy that posts on the internet you are no more a revolutionary than I am the England manager you are a supporter of the establishment global corporations and the political establishment in the UK and America both of which want and need the EU to keep the population in check TTIP being one example TTIP is being done in secret by the EU and America hence obamas recent urging the UK to vote to stay in the EU I have no doubt that TTIP is the main reason Obama wants the EU to stay together, but you won't avoid TTIP by voting out, you probably be even more subservient to US interests and these trade deals are being incorporated to all WTO regulations, they must be stopped - best way to do it is united in a community. You can sign up here as an EU citizen... https://stop-ttip.org/sign/
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As I said, Britain has a veto vote, don't allow these countries that are supposedly taking your money into the EU. Simple. Boris the clown is apparently unaware of this and so are his followers, this is a joke, really. I am no supporter of Boris but if you think he is a clown then you know even less than I thought you did he is an Oxford graduate very astute politically and was a success as London major. If Britain votes for brexit he is well positioned for the Tory leadership if Britain votes to leave and Europe continues to implode (as it will) then the backlash against the remain Tories Osbourne may etc the other candidates for leadership he will be huge he will be able to say "I told you so" he will be in an unassailable position for Tory leader. And given labours state if you are Tory leader you are prime minister. And you think he is stupid ? Well I wish I was as stupid as him !
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As far as I see, Stan's main argument is that "Oh you don't live in England" so you don't know. My sister lives in England, has done for the past 20 years, was born in Scotland. That's British if you ask me. She thinks your arguments are...let's say "silly" as I can't really use the words she used to describe them. Not as silly as you showing my EU arguments on koptalk to your sister did you email them ? You really are seriously weird. I will never forget the time you posted my posts from about 3 years previous and posted them on koptalk to prove a point you really had saved them and remembered and utilised them years later. Scary
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