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you are right.depends alot on our decisions in the summer.


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Yep. Unfortunately with no European football we won't be shopping at Harrods but there are still plenty of very good players out there. We still have a massive pull as a club so we should be OK.

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Let's just hope we can attract decent players this summer because of and quite simply the 'Klopp factor', as there isn't actually any other reason to consider us now.
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you told me what Rodgers won in his three years that makes him better than Klopp?

What about getting us back into the CL after a bit of an absence? Or are you going to say that was all down to someone else wilkij? There's a sad lack of balance in this debate, let alone anything resembling a traditional LFC approach.

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Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you told me what Rodgers won in his three years that makes him better than Klopp?

What about getting us back into the CL after a bit of an absence? Or are you going to say that was all down to someone else wilkij? There's a sad lack of balance in this debate, let alone anything resembling a traditional LFC approach.


Don't get me wrong. I liked Rodgers. Had some good qualities and as you say, got us back to the top table in Europe.

But after three years and nearly £300m spent, he won fukk all so for some clown to come on here telling us that Klopp hasn't done better than him after 2/3 of a season, I'm not having that.

I know he's a WUM and I shouldn't bite but I can't help myself.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you told me what Rodgers won in his three years that makes him better than Klopp?

What about getting us back into the CL after a bit of an absence? Or are you going to say that was all down to someone else wilkij? There's a sad lack of balance in this debate, let alone anything resembling a traditional LFC approach.


Don't get me wrong. I liked Rodgers. Had some good qualities and as you say, got us back to the top table in Europe.

But after three years and nearly £300m spent, he won fukk all so for some clown to come on here telling us that Klopp hasn't done better than him after 2/3 of a season, I'm not having that.

I know he's a WUM and I shouldn't bite but I can't help myself.


No. I think you'll find that was mainly down to one man team Luis whistle

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you told me what Rodgers won in his three years that makes him better than Klopp?

What about getting us back into the CL after a bit of an absence? Or are you going to say that was all down to someone else wilkij? There's a sad lack of balance in this debate, let alone anything resembling a traditional LFC approach.


Don't get me wrong. I liked Rodgers. Had some good qualities and as you say, got us back to the top table in Europe.

But after three years and nearly £300m spent, he won fukk all so for some clown to come on here telling us that Klopp hasn't done better than him after 2/3 of a season, I'm not having that.

I know he's a WUM and I shouldn't bite but I can't help myself.


Well IF Rodgers get the Celtic job, we'll expect him to win their 6 championship on the trot and do well in the CL then. But wait does Celtic have £300m for him to spend? laugh

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I'm as disappointed as everyone else, but I think we need to step back and look at the season as a whole, under Klopp we have improved, we have made 2 cup finals and it could be argued we were abit unlucky in both, but the underlying fact is that we are still inconsistent and are not strong enough in key positions.

Klopp is getting the best out of most the players and we have seen an improvement, but some players will not fit into his system (like Benteke) or cannot be improved to what Klopp requires (Moreno).

I have every confidence Klopp now knows what he requires, I do not think not getting in the CL particularly affects our targets, Klopp was never going to go out and buy 'Galacaticos' who demand CL, that's not his style, he will buy very good up and coming players who will fit into his system and improve them, lots of teams improve like Leiccester/Southampton/West Ham without CL, that comes down to good scouting and coaching.

I am far more optimistic at the end of this season compared to then end of last season. I think there is a good opportunity to do well in next years Premier League, lots of teams are still in transition, Man City have a new manager to the league and will be rebuilding, same for Chelsea, Man Utd are sticking with LVG or getting a new manager, so same for them, Arsenal seem to be treading water and I think Tottenham's close miss could have a knock on effect to next season, like we experienced when going so close, but they are still a good team.

We have Klopp who now knows the league, how teams play and what is required, he has fully assessed the squad, so knows what he needs to bring in and who he needs to let go, I think for his first three quarters of a season at Liverpool he's done well, he's also not happy, so that's a good sign, hopefully FSG just give him the money and let him buy who he wants.

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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Originally Posted By Hercules/AF 58
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Sorry, I must have missed the part where you told me what Rodgers won in his three years that makes him better than Klopp?

What about getting us back into the CL after a bit of an absence? Or are you going to say that was all down to someone else wilkij? There's a sad lack of balance in this debate, let alone anything resembling a traditional LFC approach.


Don't get me wrong. I liked Rodgers. Had some good qualities and as you say, got us back to the top table in Europe.

But after three years and nearly £300m spent, he won fukk all so for some clown to come on here telling us that Klopp hasn't done better than him after 2/3 of a season, I'm not having that.

I know he's a WUM and I shouldn't bite but I can't help myself.


No. I think you'll find that was mainly down to one man team Luis whistle


Yep. He was fortunate to have one of the worlds best playing for him. I don't buy into it all being about Suarez as Gerrard, Sturridge, Coutinho and even Sterling all had great seasons too and Rodgers deserves some credit as he was in charge at that time.

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Originally Posted By ecnirp98
I'm as disappointed as everyone else, but I think we need to step back and look at the season as a whole, under Klopp we have improved, we have made 2 cup finals and it could be argued we were abit unlucky in both, but the underlying fact is that we are still inconsistent and are not strong enough in key positions.

Klopp is getting the best out of most the players and we have seen an improvement, but some players will not fit into his system (like Benteke) or cannot be improved to what Klopp requires (Moreno).

I have every confidence Klopp now knows what he requires, I do not think not getting in the CL particularly affects our targets, Klopp was never going to go out and buy 'Galacaticos' who demand CL, that's not his style, he will buy very good up and coming players who will fit into his system and improve them, lots of teams improve like Leiccester/Southampton/West Ham without CL, that comes down to good scouting and coaching.

I am far more optimistic at the end of this season compared to then end of last season. I think there is a good opportunity to do well in next years Premier League, lots of teams are still in transition, Man City have a new manager to the league and will be rebuilding, same for Chelsea, Man Utd are sticking with LVG or getting a new manager, so same for them, Arsenal seem to be treading water and I think Tottenham's close miss could have a knock on effect to next season, like we experienced when going so close, but they are still a good team.

We have Klopp who now knows the league, how teams play and what is required, he has fully assessed the squad, so knows what he needs to bring in and who he needs to let go, I think for his first three quarters of a season at Liverpool he's done well, he's also not happy, so that's a good sign, hopefully FSG just give him the money and let him buy who he wants.



I sincerely hope you're right on those points ecnirp, but surely that's what we should expect and nothing less than a title challenge, given that United, Chelsea and City are facing rebuilds, with incoming managers and us with no European competition or distractions? If we can't challenge in these benign circumstances when will we ever challenge?

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