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Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
I am convinced we have made great progress under Klopp but we do not have top quality players consistently as SG, Torres, and Suarez used to be. We have hard working players but no top class special ones except Coutinho on his day. I think Klopp gets more than the best of players in Cup games mainly because they are one off games rather that the continuity of a league, he can get them fired up in particular games, thus we got to 2 cup finals. None of our players got in the best EPL team of the season, there must be a reason.


That's a fair point and i understand your reasoning. Perhaps you are right as challenging over the period of a season is very different to challenging in a cup format. I don't know, but I DO expect us to be challenging next season.


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we have players who can develop into near enough world class players in their own right, with the quality brought in.

Look at spurs they were challenging with few world class talents, just a lot of good player - therefore why can't we, and near enough world class players - top players in their own right, eriksen, lloris, kane, dembele, or were they really ever 'challenging?' they just finished 2nd, I suppose if you are in the top 3, automatically you are challenging? I expect the league to be better standard next season, but our signings should be the difference between 4th or challenging?

as last night showed with poor players offensively in some areas like lallana I don't know if we have what it takes to be able to win matches comfortably against good opposition?

just gonna refer to a post i made about studge and firmino getting bullied I thought all our attacking midfielders dropped very deep at times, lallana, coutinho, sturridge in particular.

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Originally Posted By Ninja Skrtel
Originally Posted By RedsforChampions
I am convinced we have made great progress under Klopp but we do not have top quality players consistently as SG, Torres, and Suarez used to be. We have hard working players but no top class special ones except Coutinho on his day. I think Klopp gets more than the best of players in Cup games mainly because they are one off games rather that the continuity of a league, he can get them fired up in particular games, thus we got to 2 cup finals. None of our players got in the best EPL team of the season, there must be a reason.


That's a fair point and i understand your reasoning. Perhaps you are right as challenging over the period of a season is very different to challenging in a cup format. I don't know, but I DO expect us to be challenging next season.


I also think we should be challenging, but need reinforcements for that.

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Originally Posted By Torres65
we have players who can develop into near enough world class players in their own right, with the quality brought in.

Look at spurs they were challenging with few world class talents, just a lot of good player - therefore why can't we, and near enough world class players - top players in their own right, eriksen, lloris, kane, dembele, or were they really ever 'challenging?' they just finished 2nd, I suppose if you are in the top 3, automatically you are challenging? I expect the league to be better standard next season, but our signings should be the difference between 4th or challenging?

as last night showed with poor players offensively in some areas like lallana I don't know if we have what it takes to be able to win matches comfortably against good opposition?

just gonna refer to a post i made about studge and firmino getting bullied I thought all our attacking midfielders dropped very deep at times, lallana, coutinho, sturridge in particular.


I don't feel we can use last nights match as a litmus test. Had we really been playing at 100% I feel we coul have put 3 past them. It was obvious from the word go, that we would try and win the match but not at the cost of going into challenges at 100% or getting stuck into those 50/50 situations. We were holding back and making sure we dont pick up any crucial injuries.


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