KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum Perspective...we need a new back 5

I know let's replace up and coming young players that are growing and playing well with players who might not work out. Crazy

I see Sakho as being head & shoulders above any other defender at the club now, or in the last couple of years. For me, it's him and either Matip or Lovren. And if Skrtel is happy as a bit part player than things are looking pretty good for us in the middle of defence for the next few years.

Skrtel is a fantastic guy and a servant of the club, but he's done as a starter. Sakho and Lovren are fine, and Matip will be competing with one of them. Migs and Moreno need competiton.

You can't just keep replacing a whole team season after season. Small decent upgrades is the way forward. Lovern & Sakho may not be good enough for were we are going, we will see next season. At the moment they are doing well. But we cannot go replacing our whole backline at once.

I'm hoping Matip will be better than both. Migs is playing well but he definitely needs replacing in the summer. He cost us too many points this season and will do the same next season. He is not a top level keeper

He's not, but he's not as bad as Westerveld. I just watched the 2001 UEFA cup final highlights and cannot believe how poor SW was! We won a european trophy with a bad keeper and it could happen again this year. Maybe Klopp's decision to give a new contract to Mignolet isn't as odd as it seems. He clearly doesn't see GK as a key position.

It's as much about types of defenders go well with each other, hence I say partnership would sakho and matip be a good defensive partnership together, I'm not so sure.

Yeah sakho fans favourite will never be my fans favourite, he has a lot of flaws in his game, his attacking form of defending always wanting to make the challenge and step in you can't always do. If I was to choose a defender for a 1v1 it would be dejan every time, he is the better defender at the club for me, even if kane did buy half a yard on him and score, more workable flaws.

the one workable flaw I can think in sakho's game that he can improve on in his terrible clearances at times, but then so can dejan.

Yeah we might but he will let us down again you can be sure of that. Klopp is looking for a new keeper there is enough reports from respected journalists to say so, I don't believe for a second that he isn't. If Migs is our first choice next season it is because we could not do a deal on an upgrade. It is the easiest position to upgrade at the moment and it is one we should be making. We can get a very good keeper for 20-30m and not have to wait until they bed into the team too much.

I don't think much needs changing at the back. Lovren and sahko have been playing well and are improving all the time. I think Klopp can get even more from them. Clyne is a good player and I think he will improve too. Moreno makes some poor choices but he's young and has the potential to be world class in my opinion. Matip is is coming in so will add some quality competition.

I mentioned about replacing the whole team to make a point to the person who set up the thread. If you get rid a defense because individually and collectively they aren't perfect you would end up getting rid of the full squad if you held everyone up by the same standards.

Mignolet - fine
Moreno - needs competition
Sakho - fine
Lovren - fine
Clyne -fine

The thread been set up because we conceded 3 against Dortmund. the main reason for this wasn't the defense but because the game was so open.

The list of teams that have conceded 3 against Dortmund this year is pretty long. They are a very free-scoring side.

The number of teams that have held them to one goal at their place, however is not so long.