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In that train of thought comes the Gotze rumors, but I think we need proper wide forwards more than CAMs. Phil and Firmino are good enough for CAM, and Lallana is fine as third choice. If someone absolutely world class becomes available and we have a chance to sign him (such as Gotze), then yes, buy him. But if not, I don't think that should be our focus. We need a keeper, cover at fullback, wingers, and a quality dm/cm. Perhaps a striker. With all of those needs, I don't see CAM as weekness, when we have 3, two of which are two of our best players and match-winners.
We have Matip and Grujic coming in, who look good, and we have Markovic potentially coming back. I would really like to see us lock down a keeper next, then a CM/DM and then fullback cover.
THEN we can look at the attack (which has been pretty excellent lately). For that I would think a winger would be the first priority, then a striker. CAM would be literally the last position we need to cover. I don't disagree CAM is pretty much the last position in terms of priority, that's why I would want it to be a cheap option if possible, I've gone off sigurdsson, Chris is right, he wouldn't improve us, even if he's a useful quality player especially compared to, and in, the swansea team. I don't know if there are any other cheap options out there, even Wijnaldum too inconsistent for me, I'm not sure he'd be good enough either, even if newcastle are struggling and he can't do much in the current setup at present. Yeah I take your point about having proper wide forwards rather than all attacking midfielders who are better centrally, although that does help you play narrow. (Is this madness, but who thinks klopp might be able to rediscover hazard's form of last season? I know hazard only has 4 assists in 20 this season, but we know what he's capable of when he's at his best. Not the right fit?) Even if we had that kind of money, and we don't, why would Hazard even thing of coming to us? Are you discussing Football Manager or something?
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In that train of thought comes the Gotze rumors, but I think we need proper wide forwards more than CAMs. Phil and Firmino are good enough for CAM, and Lallana is fine as third choice. If someone absolutely world class becomes available and we have a chance to sign him (such as Gotze), then yes, buy him. But if not, I don't think that should be our focus. We need a keeper, cover at fullback, wingers, and a quality dm/cm. Perhaps a striker. With all of those needs, I don't see CAM as weekness, when we have 3, two of which are two of our best players and match-winners.
We have Matip and Grujic coming in, who look good, and we have Markovic potentially coming back. I would really like to see us lock down a keeper next, then a CM/DM and then fullback cover.
THEN we can look at the attack (which has been pretty excellent lately). For that I would think a winger would be the first priority, then a striker. CAM would be literally the last position we need to cover. I don't disagree CAM is pretty much the last position in terms of priority, that's why I would want it to be a cheap option if possible, I've gone off sigurdsson, Chris is right, he wouldn't improve us, even if he's a useful quality player especially compared to, and in, the swansea team. I don't know if there are any other cheap options out there, even Wijnaldum too inconsistent for me, I'm not sure he'd be good enough either, even if newcastle are struggling and he can't do much in the current setup at present. Yeah I take your point about having proper wide forwards rather than all attacking midfielders who are better centrally, although that does help you play narrow. (Is this madness, but who thinks klopp might be able to rediscover hazard's form of last season? I know hazard only has 4 assists in 20 this season, but we know what he's capable of when he's at his best. Not the right fit?) Even if we had that kind of money, and we don't, why would Hazard even thing of coming to us? Are you discussing Football Manager or something? why are we supposing hazard would be worth a packet? I'll let you answer that second question
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In that train of thought comes the Gotze rumors, but I think we need proper wide forwards more than CAMs. Phil and Firmino are good enough for CAM, and Lallana is fine as third choice. If someone absolutely world class becomes available and we have a chance to sign him (such as Gotze), then yes, buy him. But if not, I don't think that should be our focus. We need a keeper, cover at fullback, wingers, and a quality dm/cm. Perhaps a striker. With all of those needs, I don't see CAM as weekness, when we have 3, two of which are two of our best players and match-winners.
We have Matip and Grujic coming in, who look good, and we have Markovic potentially coming back. I would really like to see us lock down a keeper next, then a CM/DM and then fullback cover.
THEN we can look at the attack (which has been pretty excellent lately). For that I would think a winger would be the first priority, then a striker. CAM would be literally the last position we need to cover. I don't disagree CAM is pretty much the last position in terms of priority, that's why I would want it to be a cheap option if possible, I've gone off sigurdsson, Chris is right, he wouldn't improve us, even if he's a useful quality player especially compared to, and in, the swansea team. I don't know if there are any other cheap options out there, even Wijnaldum too inconsistent for me, I'm not sure he'd be good enough either, even if newcastle are struggling and he can't do much in the current setup at present. Yeah I take your point about having proper wide forwards rather than all attacking midfielders who are better centrally, although that does help you play narrow. (Is this madness, but who thinks klopp might be able to rediscover hazard's form of last season? I know hazard only has 4 assists in 20 this season, but we know what he's capable of when he's at his best. Not the right fit?) Even if we had that kind of money, and we don't, why would Hazard even thing of coming to us? Are you discussing Football Manager or something? Say we won the Europa league. In addition to the fact that we will finish above Chelsea, we would have champions league football, on of the best managers around, and a squad that is pretty solid that just needs a little extra quality. There's also the fact that his reputation will have taken a hit after a very lackluster year, and Chelsea fans aren't very happy with him. I'm not saying it's very likely, but it's possible. Stranger things have happened. Not seen anything to suggest that he would though.
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Don't worry redordead you don't have to sell your club, I wasn't going to dignify that question that way. We still need to be signing what we think is 'quality' anyway.
I should not of mentioned hazard, it was merely a question thrown in the air really, I wasn't expecting such a cliche, fairly negative response, but there we are. I will clarify though, when I said why are we supposing hazard would not be worth a packet, I meant absolute packet because as you say he's had an unforgettably poor season, a chance for chelsea to offload him. Okay they are our rivals, but, I hope I'm not deluding myself, 25m seems a fair price to me for both sides, they'd probably want north of 30m at least though, it would be a gamble for both sides. Like you said though unlikely to happen.
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I don't think people like transfer talk, people get some much of it off the tabloids when it comes from a fan I bet it becomes even less realistic. Added to the fact transfers aren't simple, players have to buy into the change of lifestyle and place as we know.
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In that train of thought comes the Gotze rumors, but I think we need proper wide forwards more than CAMs. Phil and Firmino are good enough for CAM, and Lallana is fine as third choice. If someone absolutely world class becomes available and we have a chance to sign him (such as Gotze), then yes, buy him. But if not, I don't think that should be our focus. We need a keeper, cover at fullback, wingers, and a quality dm/cm. Perhaps a striker. With all of those needs, I don't see CAM as weekness, when we have 3, two of which are two of our best players and match-winners.
We have Matip and Grujic coming in, who look good, and we have Markovic potentially coming back. I would really like to see us lock down a keeper next, then a CM/DM and then fullback cover.
THEN we can look at the attack (which has been pretty excellent lately). For that I would think a winger would be the first priority, then a striker. CAM would be literally the last position we need to cover. I don't disagree CAM is pretty much the last position in terms of priority, that's why I would want it to be a cheap option if possible, I've gone off sigurdsson, Chris is right, he wouldn't improve us, even if he's a useful quality player especially compared to, and in, the swansea team. I don't know if there are any other cheap options out there, even Wijnaldum too inconsistent for me, I'm not sure he'd be good enough either, even if newcastle are struggling and he can't do much in the current setup at present. Yeah I take your point about having proper wide forwards rather than all attacking midfielders who are better centrally, although that does help you play narrow. (Is this madness, but who thinks klopp might be able to rediscover hazard's form of last season? I know hazard only has 4 assists in 20 this season, but we know what he's capable of when he's at his best. Not the right fit?) Even if we had that kind of money, and we don't, why would Hazard even thing of coming to us? Are you discussing Football Manager or something? Say we won the Europa league. In addition to the fact that we will finish above Chelsea, we would have champions league football, on of the best managers around, and a squad that is pretty solid that just needs a little extra quality. There's also the fact that his reputation will have taken a hit after a very lackluster year, and Chelsea fans aren't very happy with him. I'm not saying it's very likely, but it's possible. Stranger things have happened. Not seen anything to suggest that he would though. If he and Chelsea decide to move on, PSG and Real at least will be bidding. Dreaming is right though.
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If he and Chelsea decide to move on, PSG and Real at least will be bidding. Dreaming is right though.
Are you sure? It's funny to say it's a distant 'dream' when we could get gotze, world cup winner. There is nothing to say hazard would or wouldn't rediscover his form at liverpool or anywhere so I'm sure this is the stuff of dreams.
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