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I like Klopp but some people probably don't as he is not english. Probably does not sit well with their racist viewpoint If someone wanted an English manager it is not because of their race. Very silly comment. About as silly as your comment that people like Klopp more because he's not English. They like him because he's a proven manager that has actually done something in the game.
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I am astounded people aren't expecting more from Klopsy myself, I have a low expectatncy level when it comes to the Club but to be happy and made up with Klopps management and results since he arrives is a bit much even for me. I was expecting this Messiah with all the reputation and reports, quite underwhelmed if am honest up to now, he is going to have to be really special in these next transfer windows if he is to turn us into a traditionalist top 6 Club... Who isn't expecting more? I certainly am but like most sensible people I'm prepared to wait and see what happens when he's got some of his own players in and has had a pre-season. That's the least we can do is it not to give him a proper chance?
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If Klopsy is such a good manager he should be able to get a tune out of Big Ben, I don't believe Benteke is a lost cause, he was one of the top strikers in the League. The thing which doesn't reflect well on Klopsy is that he seemed to write him off about a week and a half after working with him, surely that's far too short a time to just write somebody of with Bentekes ability. If you look at past players if we took Klopsys way of managing Peter Beardsley would of been out the door and so would Ronaldo if he was manager of United, some players are late bloomers, Benteke for me still has attributes we can utilise and if Klopsy is such a good manager then he should be able to get them out of him... You're partially correct. But Benteke has to meet him half way and do what he's told to do. Anyone that has watched us play can see that Benteke is making no real effort and simply doesn't have the intelligence to be anything more than target man. He is extremely limited and does not fit Liverpool's style of playing at all. Rodgers needs to take the blame for this one.
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thats spot on Darcus. doesnt seem arsed and then spouts bs in the media. 32m down the drain
Steven Gerrard: Heartbeat of LFC.
football is fuckingg cruel
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If Klopsy is such a good manager he should be able to get a tune out of Big Ben, I don't believe Benteke is a lost cause, he was one of the top strikers in the League. The thing which doesn't reflect well on Klopsy is that he seemed to write him off about a week and a half after working with him, surely that's far too short a time to just write somebody of with Bentekes ability. If you look at past players if we took Klopsys way of managing Peter Beardsley would of been out the door and so would Ronaldo if he was manager of United, some players are late bloomers, Benteke for me still has attributes we can utilise and if Klopsy is such a good manager then he should be able to get them out of him... You're partially correct. But Benteke has to meet him half way and do what he's told to do. Anyone that has watched us play can see that Benteke is making no real effort and simply doesn't have the intelligence to be anything more than target man. He is extremely limited and does not fit Liverpool's style of playing at all. Rodgers needs to take the blame for this one. Klopp mismanaged him. The things Klopp said in the press, not adapting the system at all for Benteke, dropping him out the team after a poor performance. If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengths then he's not going to perform to his best. Considering we have been short of goals this season he could have at least tried to integrate him into the team.
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If Klopsy is such a good manager he should be able to get a tune out of Big Ben, I don't believe Benteke is a lost cause, he was one of the top strikers in the League. The thing which doesn't reflect well on Klopsy is that he seemed to write him off about a week and a half after working with him, surely that's far too short a time to just write somebody of with Bentekes ability. If you look at past players if we took Klopsys way of managing Peter Beardsley would of been out the door and so would Ronaldo if he was manager of United, some players are late bloomers, Benteke for me still has attributes we can utilise and if Klopsy is such a good manager then he should be able to get them out of him... You're partially correct. But Benteke has to meet him half way and do what he's told to do. Anyone that has watched us play can see that Benteke is making no real effort and simply doesn't have the intelligence to be anything more than target man. He is extremely limited and does not fit Liverpool's style of playing at all. Rodgers needs to take the blame for this one. Klopp mismanaged him. The things Klopp said in the press, not adapting the system at all for Benteke, dropping him out the team after a poor performance. If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengths then he's not going to perform to his best. Considering we have been short of goals this season he could have at least tried to integrate him into the team. Can you remind us again how your idol managed Mario last season and how he adapted his system around him?
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If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengts then he's not going to perform to his best.
Is it Klopp's fault that Benteke continually misses absolute sitters? Leicester at home, Sunderland and West Ham away in the FA Cup come to mind. Also we have no wingers apart from a young and very raw Jordan Ibe so how exactly can we play to his strengths with the current squad?
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If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengts then he's not going to perform to his best.
Is it Klopp's fault that Benteke continually misses absolute sitters? Leicester at home, Sunderland and West Ham away in the FA Cup come to mind. Also we have no wingers apart from a young and very raw Jordan Ibe so how exactly can we play to his strengths with the current squad? If you have low confidence, you are more likely to miss a chance. Benteke was playing quite well at the start of the season under Rodgers and we weren't crossing it all the time.
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Benteke has never really played quite well for us. He's got a few goals but very few stand out performances. All this is, is another dig at Klopp. Nothing more.
And you've not answered my question regarding Rodgers and Mario but that probably doesn't suit your agenda against Klopp.
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If Klopsy is such a good manager he should be able to get a tune out of Big Ben, I don't believe Benteke is a lost cause, he was one of the top strikers in the League. The thing which doesn't reflect well on Klopsy is that he seemed to write him off about a week and a half after working with him, surely that's far too short a time to just write somebody of with Bentekes ability. If you look at past players if we took Klopsys way of managing Peter Beardsley would of been out the door and so would Ronaldo if he was manager of United, some players are late bloomers, Benteke for me still has attributes we can utilise and if Klopsy is such a good manager then he should be able to get them out of him... You're partially correct. But Benteke has to meet him half way and do what he's told to do. Anyone that has watched us play can see that Benteke is making no real effort and simply doesn't have the intelligence to be anything more than target man. He is extremely limited and does not fit Liverpool's style of playing at all. Rodgers needs to take the blame for this one. Klopp mismanaged him. The things Klopp said in the press, not adapting the system at all for Benteke, dropping him out the team after a poor performance. If you have low confidence, you are frustrated, the team not playing to your strengths then he's not going to perform to his best. Considering we have been short of goals this season he could have at least tried to integrate him into the team. Can you remind us again how your idol managed Mario last season and how he adapted his system around him? Rodgers couldn't get the best out of Balotelli and he didn't adapt the system, but there was an attitude problem with him so it was a bit different.
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