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He'll need to collect 15 points from the remaining 10 games to keep the barcodes up, which I can't see happening tbqh and he won't stay with them after relegation. Can't see him as a championship manager.

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Originally Posted By EMP
The point is the same, he had better players then and he was rubbish.


We've done really well since he left haven't we? He missed the top 4 on two occasions in 6 seasons, the first didn't matter because of Istanbul and the second time he was sacked!

Since he left we've been in the Champions League once and didn't get past the group stages!

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Originally Posted By EMP
The point is the same, he had better players then and he was rubbish.


Ummmmmmm... we finished second with him in his second to last season - that goes against everything you said crazy

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The point is the same, he had better players then and he was rubbish.


We've done really well since he left haven't we? He missed the top 4 on two occasions in 6 seasons, the first didn't matter because of Istanbul and the second time he was sacked!

Since he left we've been in the Champions League once and didn't get past the group stages!


He inherited a champs league team, he inherited stevie g in his pomp.
He left the next manager in the europa league and with david ngog lol.

We will see what happens but I imagine his chessboard style of football will see him failing at newcastle.

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Originally Posted By Donut
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The point is the same, he had better players then and he was rubbish.


Ummmmmmm... we finished second with him in his second to last season - that goes against everything you said crazy


I said his last years..a season goes through two years.

And i have always said Alonso took over that year...rafa got in the way when we should have won it. Facts rant and defensive attitude mid season allowed utd back into it. he screwed up big time that year

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You clearly are one of those that just don't like Raffa - I'll leave you to it.

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yeah I don't.

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The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. Rafa did a great job in many respects but he also made quite a few mistakes. However, who doesn't make mistakes? Should we be so bitter against him? We're not even so bitter against Rodgers and Hodgson yet they didn't didn't do anywhere near as much for us as Rafa did.

On balance, he's seems a good bloke and acted in the best interests of LFC to the best of his abilities. I suggest we should therefore forgive and forget his shortcomings and be grateful for all the positive things he did for us. He'll forever be a welcome addition to the LFC family - a legend in his own lifetime.


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Originally Posted By TheMightyLFC
The answer probably lies somewhere in the middle. Rafa did a great job in many respects but he also made quite a few mistakes. However, who doesn't make mistakes? Should we be so bitter against him? We're not even so bitter against Rodgers and Hodgson yet they didn't didn't do anywhere near as much for us as Rafa did.

On balance, he's seems a good bloke and acted in the best interests of LFC to the best of his abilities. I suggest we should therefore forgive and forget his shortcomings and be grateful for all the positive things he did for us. He'll forever be a welcome addition to the LFC family - a legend in his own lifetime.


I think Rafa has been great as a person for LFC and good manager as well, however, I don't wish to see him back as there are better managers, Klopp being one of them

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Originally Posted By EMP
[He inherited a champs league team, he inherited stevie g in his pomp.
He left the next manager in the europa league and with david ngog lol.


The team he inherited which he managed to Champions League glory contained Traore, Finnan, Kewell, Smicer, Baros, Le Tallec, Sinama-Pongolle and Biscan. I'm not mocking any of those players but that isn't a Champions League team, the only players of genuine quality that he inherited were Hyypia, Carragher, Riise and Gerrard.

He left the next manager with Torres, Mascherano, Gerrard and Carragher who were all still top drawer.

I will never understand those who don't like Rafa, he won us a 5th European Cup, made us the number 1 ranked team in Europe, we beat Real Madrid home and away under him and won in the Nou Camp with Craig Bellamy! He cared about the club, its fans and I believe we were very lucky to have him for 6 seasons.

For the record I'm also delighted we now have Klopp and wouldn't want Rafa back, but I'm not going to knock him for the sake of it.

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