KopTalk.com Forums Football Liverpool FC Forum What are the notable improvements under Klopp?

Whilst we have been terribly inconsistent there have been games where we have shown glimmers of our potential under Klopp. Against Man City in the league, Chelsea, Southampton in the cup, Villa (to a lesser degree given the quality of the opposition) and Arsenal (apart from the defending) we have been awesome at times and i'm hoping that with a bit more time and after bringing in a few of his own players we will do that on a more frequent basis.

Its like a more aggressive version of Rodgers style of play, I like it!

@welsh To be honest it's hard to imagine if klopp hadn't got us scoring as many as we have, and countering as successful as we have at times. Think back to the opening day of the season against Bournemouth, the way we should have been able to pass through them like we were facing a pre-season side (that's one of the games which tells me our passing improved), (they've improved a lot since then) but still only 4 sides, sitting 17th,18th,19th and 20th have conceded more than the 45 bournemouth have conceded this season. I genuinely don't think we'd even be 6 points with a game in hand currently off 4th with rodgers grinding out results, playing negative football, especially with the players not working as hard under him as we've seen under jurgen, and the ongoing displeasure towards the manager.

or the second half of the season is much harder than the opening 10 games where you're catching a lot of teams cold.

I found another one, we were notoriously bad at chasing a game when Rodgers was in charge. Since Klopp took over, we have come from behind to win 4 times and to claim points 9 times. Pretty good in such a short space of time and with Rodgers's players.

Rather than asking how much better we are doing under Klopp or not as some like to believe, how about how many fans actually think we wouldn't be doing a hell of a lot worse if Rogers had remained.

There is no way in hell we would have beat City twice for a start, got to the cup final or dug that out Sunday. Our back line even make shift as it has been is remarkably improved (does no one remember the pub team performances under Rogers) and our higher intensity and passion has picked us up an extra point here and there we wouldn't have got under past play. Numerous teams are far better now than even a short few months ago yet we've stuck in there. Under Rogers I'd say we'd be around proper mid-table 11/12th.

Long may it continue.

Before Klopp, if we're one goal down and down to 10 men away to a tough ground like Palace, the odds would have been to finish the game 3-0 down.

But Klopp has given the team belief to fight until 95min. And our fitness has improved so much it's unbelievable. That's the main difference.

Other then what has already been mentioned, how about tactical changes during a match? Under BR, most of the time there don't seem to be any plan B. Just changes in personnel playing the same way.
Klopp has shown to toss it up when necessary to get the result which is always going for the win.

Especially off the back of an uncompetitive quiet season.

stoke, better now, sitting 8th in the table. bournemouth, better now, but still ongoing defensive problems, good scoring seen them stay out of relegation. arsenal, better now than when we drew 0-0 and parked the bus, and both keepers saved their side. arsenal were poor at the start of the season, trying to walk the ball into the net, they have played much better since then, but have been poor since their defeat in the champions league to barca. west ham slightly better now than they were at the start of the season, which has allowed them to stay in touch with top four, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to, were it not for michel antonio and payet kicking on after they beat rodgers side 3-0 at anfield. man utd haven't improved that much since the start of the season when they won 3-1 against us at old trafford under BR, infact mid way through they looked their lowest on confidence they ever have, but still took points from a lot of their fixtures only conceding the 2nd lowest amount of goals in the league, which is why they have been pretty much a constant near the top as they been able to pick up points with relative consistency. norwich haven't improved since liverpool unluckily drew 1-1 with them at anfield at the start of the season, and are really struggling now. villa haven't improved, I'd say they've got slightly worse than when we beat them 3-2 at anfield with danny scoring 2. gestede was still fighting hard for them at that point though, now I don't know who is fighting hard enough to make a difference for them. poor everton were at goodison, when we drew 1-1 and looked like an average team facing them, they have improved since the start of the season, harder to beat, but haven't been able to hold a lead at goodison in about 5 or 6 matches they've lead comfortably, which has made the difference between them being 12th in the table, or level with chelsea or southampton at his point at least.

Basically most sides have improved since the start of the season, even if they didn't have the right to.

Yeah agree with all that!

I think you have forgotten our 2nd half of last season, especially our game against Stoke...are you having some memory problems?