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Like you said he needs to move more, he has done this at times, drifting off the back post is a start. But he's not that awesome in the air when he is being marked. It would help if there was space in behind a defensive line to deliver the ball into, but that window of opportunity is very short, we need a beckham or a nani to whip a ball in like that for him to attack. The reason why there isn't much space in behind the defensive line, is because we cannot counter attack effectively with benteke as I keep saying without getting through to anyone. Watching the video above shows villa struggled to counter with him too at times, he's a very difficult player to get the best out of - as it hasn't been done yet at any club. He's a tank, tanks can't move fast.
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problem is... the ball delivered doesnt find his head and if it does at all, not at the height/angle benteke wishes for.
i blame the ball manufacturing company
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Seems pretty obvious he will be out the door in the summer. Question is, do we need a new striker?
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ok torress I keep saying as you
as an opposition side defender what would you think they would think they will have the most trouble with his ground play or aerial ability ? if I was a decent defender I would be more worried about his heading ! why did we buy him ? for his great link up and ground play ability! I think not ! imo of course post like this make me question if you know lfc, and know that that's not our style of football, therefore why would it change over night As I've said before I think we'll be wasting a lot of talent if we build the team around this guy. don't think you get my point torres I am saying why buy a player for 32 ml if your not going to utilize all his talents I didn't think he was the the right buy for us but if we played to his talent could be but we havn't ! you said he scored with headers as 30 % of his goal tally so by not playing to those abilities you are obviously letting a third of his talents go to waste and less of the I don't know lfc sunny jim you might get embarrassed I don't think you got my point either, it's not easy to play to his strengths, hence I've said 'no one has got the best out of him yet' despite this being his third competitive club. I also said, it's not our style of football - you know what that entails right? Probably will take 2 years to make crossing one of our main forms of goal sources. And we might not even win anything with that brand of football. Peoples fantasies of benteke are great, I share them, I want the guy to succeed, but he needs to adapt to us, not us adapting to him - we can only adapt so far.
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Be a good player in the right set up, but we don't seem to have that for him. And we need to bring in players to suit him which may or may not work. The problem is do we try do that and give him next season and miss out on a striker in the summer because of that. I could see Carroll being sold to Newcastle in the summer and west ham coming in for him.
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so that all points to my question why the F uck did we buy him for? if he don't fit our game plan ! to adapt to our style of play ? haha come on they must of been planning on sending crosses in to him what else given your description of him
It could equally be asked, surely rodgers wouldn't of signed benteke if he were not to play him with sturridge?
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There was a time not too long a ago when £32 million pound forwards could just play and do what they were meant to- score goals without a host of excuses being needed.The guy is worth about £18 million at best and isn't what we need or needed. Even when he's been one on one with the ball on the deck about 10 occasions this season his ratio is about 10%!!!!
I don't need to see anymore of the lad to see that. Another big fish in a little pond who failed to shine on the bigger stage with all it entails. You'd have thought we'd have learnt by now.
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There was a time not too long a ago when £32 million pound forwards could just play and do what they were meant to- score goals without a host of excuses being needed.The guy is worth about £18 million at best and isn't what we need or needed. Even when he's been one on one with the ball on the deck about 10 occasions this season his ratio is about 10%!!!!
I don't need to see anymore of the lad to see that. Another big fish in a little pond who failed to shine on the bigger stage with all it entails. You'd have thought we'd have learnt by now. are you saying football is all about levels and The level Benteke is playing at Liverpool is higher than the one at Villa and he's been found out a bit, interesting point..
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Completely crazy I hope whoever was involved in transfers under rodgers is no longer employed at LFC £32 mil was top end but it's not so much the transfer itself. The problem is that FSG gave a manager money to spend on the players he wanted and gave him just 8 games before sacking him. Now our new manager is left with a player he seemingly doesn't want and has mismanaged. Are you saying that we should change our tactics to play like Villa, so that we can best utilise benteke? That's the only way to manage a performance out of Beneteke. Sadly for us, Rodgers splashed out a fortune on a player that only really benefits long-ball teams that don't want to play attractive football. Rodgers screwed up big time with this purchase - anyone can see who would be a misfit.
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I agree with Darcus, it could be the case that Villa got 80% out of what benteke could do on a football field, potentially, so it wouldn't make sense to even try to play their style of football.
Villa took a fair few beatings, 4-0 s, 6-1's, teams wanted to attack villa, they were for the taking, this also helped villa and ben.
Don't listen to RS Darcus, he's probably one of the worst judges of jurgen and how he goes about his management, due to his endless bias. I'd be intrigued to know how RS would have managed him any differently though.
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