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Originally Posted By Stanley Park
I have maybe 20 teams within an hours drive from my home yet I chose Liverpool in the days when shankly was just getting the team going pre 65 FA cup win. What does that make me ? From memory it was the kit and the sight of the kop on the TV I like the badge too. To a child that was glory and so here I am glory hunter at your service :-)


Yep, unless somebody is influenced by a father, bigger brother, uncle or a close relative, any child will choose success, whether local or not. Only the Spangles guy is looking for some divine voice to choose a club. In fact, he doesn't even know what to say to get attention and we all know who he was before getting kicked from here.

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


No its not, Chelsea had very little history and were a nothing club before Abrahamovic took them over.

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like I have always maintained and you have just confirmed our global fanbase is built up on gloryhunting fans, Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


Again you are getting confused. A glory hunter is one who will support the best performing team of the moment and change for a better team when that happens unless you have a different definition. It's true that most global fans will choose the winning team when they start to watch and understand the game, but, they rarely change after that, just like a local fan.
a glory hunter chooses a team because they are successful or famous please don't compare a local fan to that as it's very insulting we are not lucky enough to get to pick a team. The local fan is the bread and butter while the emergence of the Out of Town fan has ruined football at lower and grass roots level...


Are you saying there is only one team in your locality? By the way, whether you are local or not, LFC is not your property and you do not have any more rights on it. There is hardly any players from the town anyway and the owners are Americans. I hope not all local fans are narrow minded as you and also note that the world has gone global since you could grasp anything.
but that's just it locals do see the club as there property, if you come from the city the club represents you there's a clue in the badge and in the name if you didn't know.

Ok let's get to the nuts and bolts of the matter and try to get this thing sorted sensibly. I think Out Of Town fans have killed most lower league and grass roots football and I will tell you why.
If you look at the attendences from the 90s onwards when fans stopped supporting there local clubs and started to support more successful and fashionable clubs the days of the smaller clubs flourishing started to die. A young lad born and brought up in Brighton, Hartlepool or Sheffield thought my club is rubbish and never wins anything so I think I will go and support a United or Liverpool because there famous and win stuff, the local team then started to struggle attendence wise and if you check the attendences around the country from the 90s onwards you will clearly see they have got lower and lower to the point some are in danger of going extinct.

Hers a little story which happened a couple of years ago to back up my point, I went to a stag weekend in Nottingham, next day we goes to the pub and there's two rooms with matches on, the pub was quite busy in one room Forest were playing I think Cardiff City and in the next United were playing Southampton, there was about 6 people watching Forest and about 40 watching United, how is that rite, Nottingham a fantastic sporting City, Forest European Cup winners twice, Notts County oldest football Club around and the same club Juventus took there famous black and white stripes from, a cricket ground and race track and there they have football supporters from there own city turning there backs on the local team to support United, absolutely disgraceful.
Another thing where do you think football would be if all supporters did what most Out of Town supporters do and support a Club from another City because they were better than there own local Club, football would be finished as everyone can do that.

Sorry if people don't agree with my view but I base it on my own experience and thoughts, it's an interesting debate tho but like I say you only have to look at the attendences of the lower league clubs since the 90s to see the impact of this Out Of Town glory hunting fan movement...

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Chelsea are the fastest growing fanbase in the world since Roman took over and it's for the same reasons ours was built all those years ago...


No its not, Chelsea had very little history and were a nothing club before Abrahamovic took them over.
chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...

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Originally Posted By Spangles
chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...


You say Liverpool have a glory hunting fanbase because of our previous successes and history. What success did Chelsea have before Abrahamovic took over apart from the odd FA Cup?

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chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...


You say Liverpool have a glory hunting fanbase because of our previous successes and history. What success did Chelsea have before Abrahamovic took over apart from the odd FA Cup?
the clue might be in when I said the fastest growing fanbase SINCE abramovic came in...

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chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...


You say Liverpool have a glory hunting fanbase because of our previous successes and history. What success did Chelsea have before Abrahamovic took over apart from the odd FA Cup?
the clue might be in when I said the fastest growing fanbase SINCE abramovic came in...


There fanbase has grown yes but it still isn't on the same level as ourselves or Man Utd. Even Man City with all their money and recent success still struggle to sell out the Etihad.

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chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...


You say Liverpool have a glory hunting fanbase because of our previous successes and history. What success did Chelsea have before Abrahamovic took over apart from the odd FA Cup?
the clue might be in when I said the fastest growing fanbase SINCE abramovic came in...


There fanbase has grown yes but it still isn't on the same level as ourselves or Man Utd. Even Man City with all their money and recent success still struggle to sell out the Etihad.

well according to the reports I have read Chelsea have more supporters worldwide than us, our fanbase is shrinking while there's has grown over the years. City are just starting out, they are building a fanbase, let's see how many fans they. Have in a few more years on the current path to world domination..

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City will be on another planet to us in ten years assuming our current trajectory, You would have to be a complete fool not to recognise that


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Originally Posted By Chris2402
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chelsea have increased there fanbase tenfold since Roman started and those fans attached themselves to Chelsea's winning for exactly the same reasons as ours did back in the 70s...


You say Liverpool have a glory hunting fanbase because of our previous successes and history. What success did Chelsea have before Abrahamovic took over apart from the odd FA Cup?
the clue might be in when I said the fastest growing fanbase SINCE abramovic came in...


There fanbase has grown yes but it still isn't on the same level as ourselves or Man Utd. Even Man City with all their money and recent success still struggle to sell out the Etihad.

just checked on four different sites including the BBC site and every one has us fourth biggest fanbase worldwide behind United, Arsenal and Chelsea...

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