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I agree about the Jan inactivity counting against Klopp. He had plenty of time to make some ruthless decisions about at least one or two players.
Every transfer window provides an opportunity. Sometimes the recruitment team just have to be smart or meticulous in their search. It's not going to be possible to rebuild in one summer window so January should have been used wisely. By not using it and by giving a contract extension to Migs, Klopp in effect beigins to take responsibility for players that may have been signed by Rodgers.
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Haha all this to protect Klopp from any criticism.
Nonsense. Klopp has only been here for a few months and hasn't spent any money yet so gets away with it for the moment. However, if he continues to back the likes of Mignolet over the next season or so without any improvement in performances and results then he too will start to feel the heat. One thing that he doesn't do though, unlike Rodgers, is spout BS. This will earn him more time but at the end of the day, he too will be judged against his transfer activity, performances and results. So far it's not looking too good. I disagree with second paragraph. Klopp has said we've played well this season in matches when we haven't and blamed the result on the decision making in the attacking third. Brendan likes to talk and I know some people will think he sounds like a salesmen every time he opens his mouth, but he doesn't make extraordinary claims or cause controversy,y he respectfully says what he thinks.
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Haha all this to protect Klopp from any criticism.
Nonsense. Klopp has only been here for a few months and hasn't spent any money yet so gets away with it for the moment. However, if he continues to back the likes of Mignolet over the next season or so without any improvement in performances and results then he too will start to feel the heat. One thing that he doesn't do though, unlike Rodgers, is spout BS. This will earn him more time but at the end of the day, he too will be judged against his transfer activity, performances and results. So far it's not looking too good. I disagree with second paragraph. Klopp has said we've played well this season in matches when we haven't and blamed the result on the decision making in the attacking third. Brendan likes to talk and I know some people will think he sounds like a salesmen every time he opens his mouth, but he doesn't make extraordinary claims or cause controversy,y he respectfully says what he thinks. That we always showed great character?
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Rodgers was not good enough lets just move on The problem is CJ that FSG aren't good enough and we can't move on from them. Rogers wasn't good enough, I question his integrity and he was quite happy to toe the line and compromise it, but they are as much to blame and most of it stems from a disastrous transfer policy that continues to dog the club even now with the ripples having ruined this season unless Sturridge can salvage something for us in the run in. Whilst I think Klopp is a better manager and has reference points in his success to draw from, which Rogers didn't when situations arise on the field, the fact that he hasn't been able to get this lot to improve with any significant consistency (injuries duly noted) probably points to BR being a fair coach. Certainly far from the worst. It's gone full circle for me now, where I once would have cheered at the news of Marquee signings now not only fills me with dread as they haven't worked out in 90% of cases under FSG, I am hoping we can get some tenacious, talented and honest guys in under Klopp and try and get a bit of the soul/identity back at Liverpool. Other lesser teams have lead the way this season with that ethos so why can't we? As things stand I am becoming more and more switched off from this rubbish and it's just a horrible muddled mess at the moment. We could do with a player in the Lucas role who is more mobile, good on the ball and tenacious. Hopefully a bit of aggression would rub off onto the other players.
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Haha all this to protect Klopp from any criticism.
Nonsense. Klopp has only been here for a few months and hasn't spent any money yet so gets away with it for the moment. However, if he continues to back the likes of Mignolet over the next season or so without any improvement in performances and results then he too will start to feel the heat. One thing that he doesn't do though, unlike Rodgers, is spout BS. This will earn him more time but at the end of the day, he too will be judged against his transfer activity, performances and results. So far it's not looking too good. I disagree with second paragraph. Klopp has said we've played well this season in matches when we haven't and blamed the result on the decision making in the attacking third. Brendan likes to talk and I know some people will think he sounds like a salesmen every time he opens his mouth, but he doesn't make extraordinary claims or cause controversy,y he respectfully says what he thinks. That we always showed great character? Or that we were outstanding?!! lol I've not heard Klopp go that far. whenever he has said we played well it seems like his hones opinion. Brendan should've caused controversy from time to time. That was part his problem. He didn't stand up to the committee, the owners or even to other managers. Remember how he quickly apologised to Mourinho? His number one priority seemed to be to simply keep his highly paid job and all the perks that went with it.
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Klopp has also said we weren't good enough a few times which Rodgers never did.
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Brilliant comment, so it was ok to give that disaster of a manager 3 years but Klopp gets one? No he should get two seasons (minus 8 games) before fans and owners should make a proper judgement. At this stage in Brendan's tenure we were on the verge of Liverpool's greatest every accomplishment in the Premier League era so obviously Brendan would get more time after this. If Klopp does well next season of course he will be given longer. And yet he still managed to bottle it against a second string chelsea side because he was too naive not to fall into jose's trap
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No he should get two seasons (minus 8 games) before fans and owners should make a proper judgement. At this stage in Brendan's tenure we were on the verge of Liverpool's greatest every accomplishment in the Premier League era so obviously Brendan would get more time after this.
No we weren't, Rodgers' first season at LFC was pretty poor and only picked up after the January transfer window when Sturridge and Coutinho were recruited. We finished 7th if I remember correctly and were knocked out of the FA Cup by Oldham and the League Cup at home to Swansea. He also inherited a squad which included Reina, Agger, Gerrard and Suarez, Klopp has inherited Mignolet, Lovren, Lallana and Benteke. The above are facts, the club was in a much better position when Rodgers took over than it was when Klopp took over despite £300mil investment. You haven't understood what I meant when I said 'at this stage' as I was meaning after 2 seasons (minus the 8 games) but it is my fault for not writing clearly. The first paragraph I agree with. Klopp inherited a better team than Brendan, but Klopp hasn't had any investment yet. £300m is not even that much considering our outgoings.
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