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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Because we're Liverpool FC. The clue is in the name! And anyway, why would we need to re-locate to buy all these superstars who want to be in London and the like if all we have to concentrate on is the cups?
unfortunately there is not much left of Liverpool because it lost it's identity years ago like United did even earlier so there is no clue in the name at all, local fans attending matches are as rare as hen's teeth, local kids growing up now support the people's club Everton and the Club is nothing more than an American franchise. People can't have it both ways they either wanted this global fanbase, international Club or they wanted a local family based club true to its identity...

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So why do you still support them then if it's that bad? Plus, if you want success, which I assume you do, we have to be global in all aspects. A team full of scousers supported by only scousers and owned by scousers and we'd be lucky to be in division 1.

It's a wonderful ideal but very unrealistic.

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Originally Posted By Spangles
Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Because we're Liverpool FC. The clue is in the name! And anyway, why would we need to re-locate to buy all these superstars who want to be in London and the like if all we have to concentrate on is the cups?
unfortunately there is not much left of Liverpool because it lost it's identity years ago like United did even earlier so there is no clue in the name at all, local fans attending matches are as rare as hen's teeth, local kids growing up now support the people's club Everton and the Club is nothing more than an American franchise. People can't have it both ways they either wanted this global fanbase, international Club or they wanted a local family based club true to its identity...
Any statistics to support that claim?

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Because we're Liverpool FC. The clue is in the name! And anyway, why would we need to re-locate to buy all these superstars who want to be in London and the like if all we have to concentrate on is the cups?
unfortunately there is not much left of Liverpool because it lost it's identity years ago like United did even earlier so there is no clue in the name at all, local fans attending matches are as rare as hen's teeth, local kids growing up now support the people's club Everton and the Club is nothing more than an American franchise. People can't have it both ways they either wanted this global fanbase, international Club or they wanted a local family based club true to its identity...
Any statistics to support that claim?
mostly because I live in the City and use common sense. I will try to explain the situation, if you are a young kid growing up in Liverpool you have the choice of two Clubs Liverpool or Everton. Firstly you can't buy tickets for Liverpool home games because a) there are none available to locals because the club sells them to organisations like Thomas Cooke and organisations from places like Ireland and Norway e.t.c and b) you need a credit card even if you get the chance of one and I don't think under 18s are allowed them.
Liverpool Football Club by adopting this method of ticket sales have now lost a whole generation of young fan, growing up knowing what it's like to go the game with there dads, you offer a young Liverpool fan a ticket now and they would rather have the money to buy a PlayStation game. While this has been going on Everton have been very clever in cornering the local market, they advertise on the local radio and send tickets around schools and youth centres and come xmas they sell half price season tickets, it's a fantastic way to safeguard future generations of Everton fans growing up in the City. Now we move over to Liverpool, our support is based purely and simply on glory hunting fans accumulated over the last 40 years, maybe not directly through winning things last 25 but through the famous name which is also glory, the problem is when the trophies dry up you have to rely on your name and now we are finding out that only goes so far as our support numbers worldwide is dwindling as our recent Far East tour numbers show. Normally when a team has no success the numbers fall which will happen to us over the next 5 or more years and because we no longer have a hardcore local fanbase to fall back on we will suffer more than other once big clubs like Everton, Rangers, Newcastle and Leeds who also fell from grace but still get decent local support. Hope this clears things up...

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Originally Posted By Spangles
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Originally Posted By wilkij1975
Because we're Liverpool FC. The clue is in the name! And anyway, why would we need to re-locate to buy all these superstars who want to be in London and the like if all we have to concentrate on is the cups?
unfortunately there is not much left of Liverpool because it lost it's identity years ago like United did even earlier so there is no clue in the name at all, local fans attending matches are as rare as hen's teeth, local kids growing up now support the people's club Everton and the Club is nothing more than an American franchise. People can't have it both ways they either wanted this global fanbase, international Club or they wanted a local family based club true to its identity...
Any statistics to support that claim?
mostly because I live in the City and use common sense. I will try to explain the situation, if you are a young kid growing up in Liverpool you have the choice of two Clubs Liverpool or Everton. Firstly you can't buy tickets for Liverpool home games because a) there are none available to locals because the club sells them to organisations like Thomas Cooke and organisations from places like Ireland and Norway e.t.c and b) you need a credit card even if you get the chance of one and I don't think under 18s are allowed them.
Liverpool Football Club by adopting this method of ticket sales have now lost a whole generation of young fan, growing up knowing what it's like to go the game with there dads, you offer a young Liverpool fan a ticket now and they would rather have the money to buy a PlayStation game. While this has been going on Everton have been very clever in cornering the local market, they advertise on the local radio and send tickets around schools and youth centres and come xmas they sell half price season tickets, it's a fantastic way to safeguard future generations of Everton fans growing up in the City. Now we move over to Liverpool, our support is based purely and simply on glory hunting fans accumulated over the last 40 years, maybe not directly through winning things last 25 but through the famous name which is also glory, the problem is when the trophies dry up you have to rely on your name and now we are finding out that only goes so far as our support numbers worldwide is dwindling as our recent Far East tour numbers show. Normally when a team has no success the numbers fall which will happen to us over the next 5 or more years and because we no longer have a hardcore local fanbase to fall back on we will suffer more than other once big clubs like Everton, Rangers, Newcastle and Leeds who also fell from grace but still get decent local support. Hope this clears things up...


I see you forgot to take your happy tablets again today.

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So You are happy with our league position, the most limited average team since Shanks took over and owners who can't be bothered to even turn up to watch the games while at the same time putting the least amount of money as they can get away with while at the same time taking as much as they can out. As that question to people on the forum again...

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Originally Posted By Spangles
So You are happy with our league position, the most limited average team since Shanks took over and owners who can't be bothered to even turn up to watch the games while at the same time putting the least amount of money as they can get away with while at the same time taking as much as they can out. As that question to people on the forum again...


The league season hasn't finished yet.
I would prefer to give the current manager a chance to make his mark before writing the team off.
The owners are not ideal but they are not fleecing the club to the extent that you are making out.
Your remarks about glory-hunting fans is insulting given that we haven't won the league in 25 years.

You try to give the impression that you speak for the entire city of Liverpool when it's only your own tainted, depressing and biased viewpoint.

The "people's club" remark, may just have given you away.

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Originally Posted By Shaggydog

Your remarks about glory-hunting fans is insulting given that we haven't won the league in 25 years.

You try to give the impression that you speak for the entire city of Liverpool when it's only your own tainted, depressing and biased viewpoint.

The "people's club" remark, may just have given you away.


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So You are happy with our league position, the most limited average team since Shanks took over and owners who can't be bothered to even turn up to watch the games while at the same time putting the least amount of money as they can get away with while at the same time taking as much as they can out. As that question to people on the forum again...


The league season hasn't finished yet.
I would prefer to give the current manager a chance to make his mark before writing the team off.
The owners are not ideal but they are not fleecing the club to the extent that you are making out.
Your remarks about glory-hunting fans is insulting given that we haven't won the league in 25 years.

You try to give the impression that you speak for the entire city of Liverpool when it's only your own tainted, depressing and biased viewpoint.

The "people's club" remark, may just have given you away.
i go past Goodison nearly everyday to work and there is a big sign that says the people's club so how am I telling any lies, most people who actually go the match from the city watch Everyon because locals can't get tickets for Liverpool again this is a fact. TheClub are only interested in fans that actually go the game or but merchandise again this is a fact so I think you better go away and come back with better material if ure going to challenge a local about what goes on in his City...

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Originally Posted By Spangles

I think you better go away and come back with better material if ure going to challenge a local about what goes on in his City...


Being a local doesn't mean you know more than anybody else, its very arrogant to think that. How many games do you go to as a matter of interest?

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