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Not sure how you can only give Lallana a 7. I'm not a fan but he was sent on to win the game and he created what should have been a winner first and then scored the actual winner so it was the perfect performance while he was on and a match winning performance. Couldn't possibly have done any more which is why I gave hima 10 :-) Sorry I'll be the craig revel horwood of voting then, not going to give any player a 10 when they have not played at least 45 minutes. Besides, if I gave him a 10 then he produced a performance like man utd, I'm not going to have the slightest credibility. Rating is also an indicator of form as you know welshred, how can you judge form when they've not played at least 45. I'm not disagreeing with you, he couldn't have done any more in that last 15 minutes.
Last edited by Torres65; 23/01/16 07:16 PM.
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Fair enough, lets just hope theres more of the same to come from him. Perhaps today shows he's better coming off the bench. He's been useless all season up until this game.
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What does his united performance have to do with this match rating?
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Mignolet 5 alert at times, conceded 4, should do better for naismiths goal, very vulnerable keeper today. Like I said he needs to be making saves which he isn't being able to do in this setup, when the shots are coming from good areas of the field and on target, it's not as simple as changing the goalkeeper, we have do better outfield to protect him, baby him, or change the system when we're able to. Replacing him may restore some confidence in our centre backs having said that.
Clyne 5.5 one of his poorest performances in a liverpool shirt, 1st half, kept going, always tried to get forward near the end, and mid way through the 2nd half.
Toure 6 always passed out wide to the right hand side, needs to look inside more, tried to be a leader, not that bad.
Sakho 5.5, think the midfields poor performance also contributed to sakho struggling today, had to deal with a lot of aerial balls, which we obviously not that comfortable with.
Moreno 4 gave away the penalty, always carried a threat going forward, played a nice 1-2 to get a shot on target, did his best to deal with naismith and redmond, but that performance leaves people questioning his capabilities.
Milner 6.5/7 perhaps plays his hand in the first goal we conceded by not clearing it, but made amends by latching onto that backpass to make it 4-3, after good liverpool pressure, norwich played a risky game at back, as did we, unable to retain possession comfortably only at the back, but we could exploit the space in behind better with our passing, and pressing, which was often beaten today, particularly by the long ball. Headed the ball away at the near post from the corner, and had good work-rate.
Henderson 6.75/7 tried to pick a pass for firmino first half, but had nothing doing first half. took his chance well to get us back into the game, but next to lucas he looked lost on the right hand side this match.
Lucas 6.25 I was worried we weren't going to break down norwich when we went 3-1 down, but lucas went with the tempo of the match, helped us increase the intensity of our passing after the penalty was conceded.
Can 6.25 Didn't really see Can having any shots at goal today, had a quite game, but still fought in the midfield, we found it hard to retain possession of the ball today, only 53%, tried to make himself available inside for ibe and moreno.
Ibe 6 a few good runs to get round his man, and escaped his marker in the middle of the field, tracked back well early on.
Firmino 7.5 chased a lot, did a job, he's not a striker, but he isn't half bad as the furthest forward attacker. so when people talk about us not having a reliable goalscorer, we don't, but we have to make the most of what we have, and he's giving his best every game where-ever he's put for the team. wasted 2 opportunities with the ball on the left hand side of the edge of the box, but did his best to link up with milner/ibe had some success twice from this I think (even if his first goal was mis-fired), probably would have been kept quite as he was against United, if the team performance was any worse all round, defence and midfield, and Norwich were better defensively.
Lallana - 7 (for the few minutes he was on) great finish, thankyou for saving us because we have to sort out this set piece problem
Benteke - 6 similar to arsenal we pump the ball in the box, and it dropped to a player, I doubt we can employ this, or replicate it with any regularity during normal time, it only works when we throw all our attack/midfield forward. I like reading people's readings so found this quie interesting. I do think though that some of your ratings are off. For instance, Lallana who scored the winner and got an assist in the space of about 20 minutes got only 0.75 higher than Can who was generally below par all game and at fault for possibly two goals.
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I thought Milner put in a good shift 8 out of 10. The rest I rate at 6 or less out of 10.
Klopp is a 10 again for his motivation, his substitutions and his sideline antics.
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Mignolet 5 alert at times, conceded 4, should do better for naismiths goal, very vulnerable keeper today. Like I said he needs to be making saves which he isn't being able to do in this setup, when the shots are coming from good areas of the field and on target, it's not as simple as changing the goalkeeper, we have do better outfield to protect him, baby him, or change the system when we're able to. Replacing him may restore some confidence in our centre backs having said that.
Clyne 5.5 one of his poorest performances in a liverpool shirt, 1st half, kept going, always tried to get forward near the end, and mid way through the 2nd half.
Toure 6 always passed out wide to the right hand side, needs to look inside more, tried to be a leader, not that bad.
Sakho 5.5, think the midfields poor performance also contributed to sakho struggling today, had to deal with a lot of aerial balls, which we obviously not that comfortable with.
Moreno 4 gave away the penalty, always carried a threat going forward, played a nice 1-2 to get a shot on target, did his best to deal with naismith and redmond, but that performance leaves people questioning his capabilities.
Milner 6.5/7 perhaps plays his hand in the first goal we conceded by not clearing it, but made amends by latching onto that backpass to make it 4-3, after good liverpool pressure, norwich played a risky game at back, as did we, unable to retain possession comfortably only at the back, but we could exploit the space in behind better with our passing, and pressing, which was often beaten today, particularly by the long ball. Headed the ball away at the near post from the corner, and had good work-rate.
Henderson 6.75/7 tried to pick a pass for firmino first half, but had nothing doing first half. took his chance well to get us back into the game, but next to lucas he looked lost on the right hand side this match.
Lucas 6.25 I was worried we weren't going to break down norwich when we went 3-1 down, but lucas went with the tempo of the match, helped us increase the intensity of our passing after the penalty was conceded.
Can 6.25 Didn't really see Can having any shots at goal today, had a quite game, but still fought in the midfield, we found it hard to retain possession of the ball today, only 53%, tried to make himself available inside for ibe and moreno.
Ibe 6 a few good runs to get round his man, and escaped his marker in the middle of the field, tracked back well early on.
Firmino 7.5 chased a lot, did a job, he's not a striker, but he isn't half bad as the furthest forward attacker. so when people talk about us not having a reliable goalscorer, we don't, but we have to make the most of what we have, and he's giving his best every game where-ever he's put for the team. wasted 2 opportunities with the ball on the left hand side of the edge of the box, but did his best to link up with milner/ibe had some success twice from this I think (even if his first goal was mis-fired), probably would have been kept quite as he was against United, if the team performance was any worse all round, defence and midfield, and Norwich were better defensively.
Lallana - 7 (for the few minutes he was on) great finish, thankyou for saving us because we have to sort out this set piece problem
Benteke - 6 similar to arsenal we pump the ball in the box, and it dropped to a player, I doubt we can employ this, or replicate it with any regularity during normal time, it only works when we throw all our attack/midfield forward. I like reading people's readings so found this quie interesting. I do think though that some of your ratings are off. For instance, Lallana who scored the winner and got an assist in the space of about 20 minutes got only 0.75 higher than Can who was generally below par all game and at fault for possibly two goals. Yeah in hindsight maybe I was too lenient in my ratings of some of our mids. I didn't know that, Can could of also prevented the first goal arsenal scored too, just need a bit more % from him maybe in our defensive third? because I do rate Can. The space between our defensive line and midfield line at times was okay but could be better.
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