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with milner and lallana either side of him? you're having a laugh, it may as well of been a 4321, he didn't score in that game vs chelsea in that setup, didn't have a glimmer of a chance in that game either, so it's a wonder he almost got on the end of anything last time out, he did 2 or 3 times to his credit clean through? sorry when? That's hardly half a chance, if you want to write off his ability to put the ball in the back of the net on the basis of that (yes he should have hit it first time), that is mad. chris, despite your high level scrutiny of firmino, we all know we should have beaten man utd regardless of firmino being a different player, we only need to watch the highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwcyEc8cGTEI shouldn't be having to tell you firmino can be a great player for liverpool, do all your hopes next season rest entirely upon transfers? Buying a whole new squad? No I'm not having a laugh, top players make chances for themselves and finish them. Firmino isn't a top player, he might become one in the future, I hope he does for LFC but I have my doubts. As for the squad we do need to rebuild again, this lot have proved they aren't good enough over the last 18 months, there are a few players I'd keep but I wouldn't be devastated to see the back of anyone!
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with milner and lallana either side of him? you're having a laugh, it may as well of been a 4321, he didn't score in that game vs chelsea in that setup, didn't have a glimmer of a chance in that game either, so it's a wonder he almost got on the end of anything last time out, he did 2 or 3 times to his credit clean through? sorry when? That's hardly half a chance, if you want to write off his ability to put the ball in the back of the net on the basis of that (yes he should have hit it first time), that is mad. chris, despite your high level scrutiny of firmino, we all know we should have beaten man utd regardless of firmino being a different player, we only need to watch the highlights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwcyEc8cGTEI shouldn't be having to tell you firmino can be a great player for liverpool, do all your hopes next season rest entirely upon transfers? Buying a whole new squad? No I'm not having a laugh, top players make chances for themselves and finish them. Firmino isn't a top player, he might become one in the future, I hope he does for LFC but I have my doubts. As for the squad we do need to rebuild again, this lot have proved they aren't good enough over the last 18 months, there are a few players I'd keep but I wouldn't be devastated to see the back of anyone! Completely agree. If you look at the actual squad its 10 times easier to say who you are gonna sell and get rid of rather than the players you are gonna keep. Firmino hasnt shown anything to prove he is anywhere near "world-class" in any game. Yes hes played well in some games, but a decent performance in the liverpool team now is gonna look 10 times better than what it actually is because the team hasnt been playing well for a long time now.
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No I'm not having a laugh, top players make chances for themselves and finish them. Firmino isn't a top player, he might become one in the future, I hope he does for LFC but I have my doubts.
As for the squad we do need to rebuild again, this lot have proved they aren't good enough over the last 18 months, there are a few players I'd keep but I wouldn't be devastated to see the back of anyone!
Completely agree. If you look at the actual squad its 10 times easier to say who you are gonna sell and get rid of rather than the players you are gonna keep. Firmino hasnt shown anything to prove he is anywhere near "world-class" in any game. Yes hes played well in some games, but a decent performance in the liverpool team now is gonna look 10 times better than what it actually is because the team hasnt been playing well for a long time now. Interesting perspectives, perhaps a lot of truth in both
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I'm obviously not the only one, klopp too. Hahaha, darcus, can you honestly say suarez was going to be world class even after his first season? If you could, you'd be lieing, no one talked about him like that. Though, I think Suarez will always be better than firmino, suarez's eye for goal, I think he'd even be proud of that strike against arsenal, oh and that one where he smashed the bar against sunderland. Oh yes - that career highlight of hitting the crossbar! whoopee. As for Suarez - no I didn't think he'd end up being as good as he was. But he was still infinitely better than Firmino and had a much better record at his previous club(s).
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I'm obviously not the only one, klopp too. Hahaha, darcus, can you honestly say suarez was going to be world class even after his first season? If you could, you'd be lieing, no one talked about him like that. Though, I think Suarez will always be better than firmino, suarez's eye for goal, I think he'd even be proud of that strike against arsenal, oh and that one where he smashed the bar against sunderland. Oh yes - that career highlight of hitting the crossbar! whoopee. As for Suarez - no I didn't think he'd end up being as good as he was. But he was still infinitely better than Firmino and had a much better record at his previous club(s). Just shows what he's capable of, like I said, Suarez would be proud of those strikes. You think smashing the bar from 28 yards with 2 players infront of him, and the strike against arsenal are flukes?
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Just shows what he's capable of, like I said, Suarez would be proud of those strikes.
Firmino must be in absolute awe of all the wonderful goals Suarez scored in a Liverpool shirt then.
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Just shows what he's capable of, like I said, Suarez would be proud of those strikes.
Firmino must be in absolute awe of all the wonderful goals Suarez scored in a Liverpool shirt then. Who wouldn't be? Especially all the free kicks he struck
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will be interesting to see if benteke starts, he did have some good moments against Exeter setting up 2 goals, but then fluffed some easy chances. I just think this is a good game to play him in.
I'd be tempted to start Allen, he's been decent recently.
Maybe:
------------Allen---------can------------
Ibe--------------Hendo-------Firmino
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I'm obviously not the only one, klopp too. Hahaha, darcus, can you honestly say suarez was going to be world class even after his first season? If you could, you'd be lieing, no one talked about him like that. Though, I think Suarez will always be better than firmino, suarez's eye for goal, I think he'd even be proud of that strike against arsenal, oh and that one where he smashed the bar against sunderland. Oh yes - that career highlight of hitting the crossbar! whoopee. As for Suarez - no I didn't think he'd end up being as good as he was. But he was still infinitely better than Firmino and had a much better record at his previous club(s). Just shows what he's capable of, like I said, Suarez would be proud of those strikes. You think smashing the bar from 28 yards with 2 players infront of him, and the strike against arsenal are flukes? That says it all. Your key defence of Firmino is that he once hit the bar i.e., had a shot off target. Well done. With standards that low you must be looking forward to us reaching that glorious target of 40 points to ensure premier league safety.
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