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I don't know about Callaghan as I am too young for that, so would go by your knowledge. Was he being courted by other better teams as SG was? Also, I don't know about SG regularly fighting in bars after getting drunk and stuff, I do heard that he responded to people insulting him and his family, which is not the same thing.

Callaghan was in the squad that won the world cup so he was no mug on the field yes in those eras players did not move as much but so what ? You can hardly claim Gerrard had unserving loyalty with his courting and close / almost moves to chelsea. Gerrard was arrested (the police dont arrest for no reason) and there have been various other incidents but yes he suffered mercyless insults from everton fans on the street but I am afraid thats the job thats why you get £130k a week and Gerrard is not the only one all the players to a lesser or greater degree get stick on the street especially in LIverpool.

Fighting back insults like a man doesn't make him less a servant. In fact, he stayed at LFC despite being called by the bests and as such got us a CL and an FA cup. Can't remember who else did that. Owen and Mc Manaman were boyhood fans as well and you know what they did. Maybe Callaghan would have done the same, but we'll never know. The other Greats mentioned like Dalglish, Rush etc were legends, but they were playing in a team nobody would be motivated to leave as it was then the best in the world, Gerrard never played in such a team. This is what makes him the greatest servant for me, same as Matt Le Tissier at Southampton .

Please get a grip. Those getting paid a fortune are not servants. What about those working bloody hard saving ans sacrificing to buy a season ticket for 1 10 50 years.
How about the privelege of playing for lfc

I don't usually get involved in these types of threads Sam but i'm with you.

All employees are actually servants, in my country everybody working in the government is called civil servant, even the highest ranking. Privilege, what privilege, you cannot play for LFC if you are no good...though I am not so sure with some of the players we have. Those saving for season ticket is because they buy entertainment and love for the club, but not sure who they are serving, they are those being served.

It's a subjective argument there are no right answers. Also a servant to me is not necessarily the most talented player. I have followed Liverpool since early childhood in 1963. These would be my list Callaghan, Hansen, dalglish, Gerrard, heighway, hall.

Of that list I would put Callaghan, dalglish, heighway, hall ahead.

I think Callaghan edges it for the length of playing service and post career help to the club most of which was unpublicised. He also was in an era where rewards were very moderate e.g wages three times the UK average wage God knows what multipler modern footballers are of the average wage.

I remember him as a player right sided mid hardly ever injured and a workrate I have never seen bettered I am doing this from memory but I think he has most appearances for Liverpool of any player. I would say not as talented as Gerrard but he was international class and would be in any Liverpool all time 11.

For me no one has given more to the club for so little

There are two sides to the argument about Gerrard playing for a less superior team being more impressive, for me the playing for a poorer team worked in Gerrard's favour in that although he was a very good player, playing alongside rubbish made him look better than he actually was.
If you were to put Lucas in Tranmere Rovers midfield he would shine like a beacon yet in Liverpool,s team he is only average at best, do you honestly think Gerrard would of shone as bright if he moved to Chelsea and played alongside Lampard, Essien, Robben, Terry, Cole and Drogba he would be as good as them but no superstar like he was with us.
I just want to mention another great I criminally left out...Ray Clemence there is no way Gerrard is ahead of him as regards greatest players, no way at all.

There are two sides to the argument about Gerrard playing for a less superior team being more impressive, for me the playing for a poorer team worked in Gerrard's favour in that although he was a very good player, playing alongside rubbish made him look better than he actually was.
If you were to put Lucas in Tranmere Rovers midfield he would shine like a beacon yet in Liverpool,s team he is only average at best, do you honestly think Gerrard would of shone as bright if he moved to Chelsea and played alongside Lampard, Essien, Robben, Terry, Cole and Drogba he would be as good as them but no superstar like he was with us.
I just want to mention another great I criminally left out...Ray Clemence there is no way Gerrard is ahead of him as regards greatest players, no way at all.
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You have to wonder why players like Henry and Zidane said Gerrard was the best and most influential midfielder in world football if he was only a "very good player".

Also Mourinho tried to sign him 3 times so he obviously thought he'd shine in his teams, one of which was Chelsea.

For the record I don't think Gerrard would have been as good at another club though for one reason alone, and that is he is a boyhood Liverpool fan and from the city, playing for Liverpool would always mean more to him than playing for Chelsea or anybody else.

As for Ray Clemence again he's before my time but I've seen and been told how good he was. Still, nobody beats Gerrard for me for reasons already stated.

There are two sides to the argument about Gerrard playing for a less superior team being more impressive, for me the playing for a poorer team worked in Gerrard's favour in that although he was a very good player, playing alongside rubbish made him look better than he actually was.
If you were to put Lucas in Tranmere Rovers midfield he would shine like a beacon yet in Liverpool,s team he is only average at best, do you honestly think Gerrard would of shone as bright if he moved to Chelsea and played alongside Lampard, Essien, Robben, Terry, Cole and Drogba he would be as good as them but no superstar like he was with us.
I just want to mention another great I criminally left out...Ray Clemence there is no way Gerrard is ahead of him as regards greatest players, no way at all.
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haha, ha ha. lucas was far from average against stoke (hence the motm), far from average against man city, it's not a coincidence that he and allen were playing in a free-er role and were far from average both times, with the whole team what many would consider 'playing well'