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I hope FSG have changed but if not, Klopp does seem to have a better record of signings than Rodgers (or the committee?) so we might do a bit better. Time will tell I suppose.

Martinez and Rodgers are more or less at the same level which incidentally is not Liverpool Football Club's level.

You could put Rodgers in charge of everton and he will look like a decent manager compared to his time at liverpool, its because the expectations at liverpool are much higher than what they are at everton.

just wondering how long these expectations being higher last for, Everton have only gone three seasons longer than us as in not winning the League and both of us no longer really win trophies, Everton none in 20 years and us one trophy in coming up to 10 years.
I think it's these false expectation levels are one of the main reasons we go through so many managers and our history over the last 25 years has been so turbulent, in stark contrast Everton fans seem to have accepted they no longer are one of the big clubs and have an automatic Devine right to win things and have a more settled club with just seven managers appointed in the last 25 years whereas we have gone through five in the last twelve years alone. Just makes you think that unrealistic expectation levels burden a club, this might sound a bit controversial but I happen to believe winning in Istanbul will burden the club much in the same way as the England World Cup Win in 1966 has burdened English football ever since.

with all due respect, I don't think it's down to expectations as to why rodgers failed to have a successful career at liverpool. are expectations the reason why suarez left, or why we had a poor transfer policy and signed many 20 + million players who couldn't make a big an impact as their price tag alluded.

although rodgers did set himself high expectations by liverpool coming as close to a league title in decades.

We would have won that title if we had someone else in the dugout. He just couldn't deal with Mourinho.

BR was more of a coach than a manager in my opinion. When he was in charge at liverpool, tactically he was clueless. There was no plan B so to speak that season.
When a team with structure and good defenders play really defensive he didnt know what to do. He would make substitutions that wouldnt move us forward but just sideways because the players were like for like.

Heard others say they think he was more of a coach than a manager too, I see the logic behind that because he wasn't the best tactician - but it's easier to say in hindsight. Well there was, the 4123, and the 442 diamond.

Ye but theres more to been a manager than a tactician and a coach in my opinion. I honestly think man-management skills are equally as important. I dont think BR had the same presence in the dressing room or training field as other managers do like Mourhino had at the teams he was at. I know jose got sacked but the way he used a siege mentality at chelsea last year was a huge factor for them maintaining 1st spot throughout the season.

The idea of us vs them (the whole world) worked for them last year but he oversteped that mark this year which was one reason why the players reacted negatively towards it and evetually got him sacked.

Can't argue with that