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#513965 09/12/15 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
If hes fit enough to play 2nd half then hes fit enough to get us off on a good foot ?


Obviously not seen as he got injured in his 30minute appearance.

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Agree chap. Saw the two together under Rogers a number of times and it didn't work.


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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
or he wasn't fit so shouldn't have played no difference in starting for thirty mins and coming on 2nd half for thirty mins in my book is there ?


Better to start him for 30 minutes and then sub off due to him running out of fuel or picking up yet another injury.

What if he comes on as a 3:rd sub in the second half and gets injured - not that impossible a scenario is it? Great to end the game playing with only 10 men!

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Originally Posted By: sixtiesred
or he wasn't fit so shouldn't have played no difference in starting for thirty mins and coming on 2nd half for thirty mins in my book is there ?


Better to start him for 30 minutes and then sub off due to him running out of fuel or picking up yet another injury.

What if he comes on as a 3:rd sub in the second half and gets injured - not that impossible a scenario is it? Great to end the game playing with only 10 men!


When you know you are going to play him for 30 mins, it's not because you know that he is going to get injured, but because he is not match fit. No responsible manager will start an unfit player knowing that he will be subbed after 30 mins.

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or he wasn't fit so shouldn't have played no difference in starting for thirty mins and coming on 2nd half for thirty mins in my book is there ?


Better to start him for 30 minutes and then sub off due to him running out of fuel or picking up yet another injury.

What if he comes on as a 3:rd sub in the second half and gets injured - not that impossible a scenario is it? Great to end the game playing with only 10 men!


When you know you are going to play him for 30 mins, it's not because you know that he is going to get injured, but because he is not match fit. No responsible manager will start an unfit player knowing that he will be subbed after 30 mins.


That is maybe the fact with the majority of all players, but IMO not with poor "Studs". You just never know when he will get injured again.

OK you could perhaps sub him on for the last 30 minutes of the game, but NOT as the last sub! 1:st or 2:nd would be fine for me, but not the last sub - for the reason explained above.

But as Sixties has already stated: Why not put him on from get go and hope to get the game kick started! After all he is usually quality - the best we have. His problem isn't game pace (which usually drops in the second half) - it's injuries as we all know.

For me no set back in getting him on for the first 30 minutes or so!

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He had very little service and they were pretty compact final third. He came deep many times to get the ball. Very harsh criticism.

He should have started the game. We needed an early Strurridge goal so there heads immediately dropped. Klopp got it wrong today but it's to be expected at this stage.



I don't think he is fit enough to start a game. For me Lucas was the worst player, I don't remember how many times he missed easy passes, but problem is, we do not have another DM. Not sure if Milner or Hendo can play there.


I doubt that. Firmino surely takes that accolade. He has only played 1 game for us where he hasn't been abysmal, and that was vs Man City.

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Is he the new Joe "Welsh Xavi" Allen? shocked

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Just announced: The kids from Alder Hey will be visiting Daniel Sturridge this Christmas...

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Just announced: The kids from Alder Hey will be visiting Daniel Sturridge this Christmas...


LMFCO!! grin

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