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Would you prefer the west disbanded it's armed forces like emp and Jeremy Corbyn wants ?

what u need em for to follow neocons into BS middle east wars that have caused absolute havoc for future generations and for no other reason than to start a terrorist war for the military industry ...the uk are covered in innocent blood the world should demand they disarm, no other countries behave like ye do.

That's a good point it has good relations with the west yet it's barbaric and brutal so how does the theory hold here Islam voilence is only a reaction to the wests miliary violence as in the theory of the far left ? . In an ideal world we would not deal with them but unfortunetly we don't live in an ideal world it's better the west has good relations than the alternative.

again the money ..israel and sunni's both hate shia's and they are our allies...two nutjob extremist states. if you are poor shia's with a more moderate form of islam then watch out we are coming for u.

Did I say that? You seem incapable of of seeing middle ground. You also seem to be unable to comprehend what other posters are saying and accuse them straight away of another extreme. I suspect it is down to your education. Either that or you must have a psychological problem where you feel the urge to argue with others.

The other thing to note is that is not unique to Saudi its Islamic law and is the case in many islamic countries in the middle east and africa, Afganistan parts of Pakistan and Chechnya.

Are you taking your medication Stan? No one is speaking about Islamic laws. The violence reffered to, and pointed out as a result of western policy's, are the bombings and terrorist attacks. Not sharia law.

No one is discussing Sharia law here. The question is, why are you and your lovely capitalist friends not rushing into Saudi Arabia to save all the poor women and liberate them from "evil" as you would term it?

Stop talking nonsense Stan. Some of the things you mention are not Islamic problems or laws at all. As Reza Aslan pointed out in the video you probably didn't watch, female genital mutilation is not an Islamic problem, it is an African problem. Eritrea has 90% female genital mutilation, guess what, a christian country. Ethiopia, 75% genital mutilation in women, guess what, christian country. Again, muslims have elected 7 women as their heads of state, how is the west comparing to that? Women have equal rights to men in Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Bangladesh....

You are stereotyping a religion 1.5 billion people strong, based on the actions of Saudi Arabia, Iran and Iraq, who make up less than 10% of the worldwide muslim population.

Tell me Stan, how would you feel if I labelled you a nazi or racist, simply because you are white?

Do some reading, educate yourself on the topic.

P.S. A large portion of the ISIS funding comes from Britain, from the collection of donations in mosques. The money is then sent to Kosovo and Bosnia for laundering before it is passed on to ISIS. Now tell me, Who created these fake states of Kosovo and Bosnia? Britain and the US.

You reap what you sow my friend...

This thread is to much for me, i'll leave you kids to it

I never mentioned female genital mutlation Ninja you did, yes it is an african custom not Islamic I never said otherwise. But islamic law and treating women as second class is Islamic and I think in the Koran although I could be wrong on that but it is the same the world over as is some very brutal penal punishments. Can I ask Ninja are you opposaed to attacking Islamic State in Syria and Iraq would you allow them to establish in these countries and eventually spread further ?