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We could always bring back Hicks and Gillette.FSG are doing ok.My only gripe was not binning Rodgers at christmas last season. Hopefully Klopp will get us back on track in a p1ss poor league now.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975


It still won't convince some that he wasn't fully to blame. And if that is what is holding Klopp back then I don't blame him.


It's still his fault. If he felt that the setup was compromising his work and preventing him from achieving the best for the club then he should have gone public or resigned. But he put his own interests first (wanting to remain in the job) and kept talking rubbish about character, outstanding, in transition, needing years to rebuild.

We can't have it both ways. Either the setup was wrong, in which case he should have taken action himself sooner, or the setup is capable of producing results in which case he seems to have failed.


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Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.

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Hardly turmoil, maybe that's what he thought would happen but considering where we are in the season and where we are as a club Rodgers leaving is more like a speed bump, we'll get over it fairly quickly.

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Get over what? cool

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


that's a fair point. but that would be a very noble thing to do... putting his own reputation at steak for the sake of the club. If that was the case though, then you would think that he would also be the type to offer his resignation and turn down a severance package (like Advocat) when it became clear that the fans and the owners had lost faith. However, he didn't do the latter so i doubt that his motives for sticking around were so lofty.


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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


that's a fair point. but that would be a very noble thing to do... putting his own reputation at steak for the sake of the club. If that was the case though, then you would think that he would also be the type to offer his resignation and turn down a severance package (like Advocat) when it became clear that the fans and the owners had lost faith. However, he didn't do the latter so i doubt that his motives for sticking around were so lofty.


Why would you turn down money? If you didn't want it you would take it and give it to charity or something.

He had worked his whole career to manage a big club. Once he was given the opportunity he was not going to let go of it easily. He wasn't selfish, he was just very determined and had a lot of self-belief.

And to be honest we will never know whether his self-beleif was misplaced or not. He had periods when he looked an accomplished elite manager (when we nearly won the league and obliterated teams after 15 minutes) and then others where he looked too inexperienced for the job.

Because of FSG's restrictions we will also never know who should take the blame for things.

He came in as a very inexperienced, very promising manager with a lot to prove.

He leaves as a much better manager with still a lot of promise and with still a lot to prove.

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Maybe he thought the best thing for the club was to stay instead of throw it into turmoil by quitting. Just another way of looking at it.


What if he liked the set up? To be ready to take decisions alone needs a lot of self belief which comes with experience, something he hardly had, especially at a club with huge expectations. The job was simply too big for him at such an early stage of his career.

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I wish him well... some things he did really well.. gave youth a chance..... a couple of good buys... did some things badly.. managed SG leaving poorly... some crap buys....
His time as gone... and time to move on.

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A few comments on this article, Lallana was signed at 25m when he was 26, Lovren at 20m when he was 25, Benteke at 32m when he was 25, that is significant money for players above 24, no? Regarding the committee, nobody knows what will happen with them as it will depend on the manager. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater, that would be stupid? Why not wait for the manager to decide who who wants and who he doesn't?

If Rodgers wanted to sign Ashley Williams, Bertrand etc, he probably had a plan of making another Swansea, I mean, I am as much excited with these players as I am with Joe Allen.
I am convinced that the big FUp was the appointment and then continuing by putting in a committee.


Agree with this.

And as far as cashing in on players, the only players of note durring FSG's time that we've "cashed in on" Torres / Suarez / Sterling all pushed through their moves to other clubs. FSG wanted to keep hold of all of these players from what we understand and they all left for bigger or money rich clubs.

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