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They may have made the decision already mate.The way Rodgers is mumbling and trying to cleanse his CV of late by blaming everything around him he looks like a goner...hopefully.
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It seems that Liverpool's results and winning trophies does not matter to FSG. What matters is the trial balance which apparently is good at the moment.
The turnover of the club has been largely based on revenue generated from popularity, supporters, tv revenue and history of success.
Without some kind of success, meaning actually winning some kind of tournament worthwhile, the capacity of revenue will decline rapidly.
Liverpool FC is at a dramatic point in it's history. BR has no capacity to compete in any league or tournament. Should he be retained by the current owners, then Liverpool will be a lower level club that struggles to stay in the EPL.
That is where we are. He does when he has top notch players as the other season proved. The season he came 2nd LFC leaked 50+ goals. Thats why they didnt win the league. He tried to score 9 past Crystal Palace and threw away a good lead. BR does not have any idea how to fix defensive issues. He has no bottle for crunch matches and has proved that time and time again. We wont even discuss his European matches. So even with great players who were scoring for fun wr could not win the league under BR. That's just nonsense. You could pick any factor you like and say it was why we did;t win the league,: Gerrard slipped over - that's why we didn't win the league We conceded too many goals - that's why we didn't win the league We didn't score enough goals - that's why we didn't win the league Some key decisions went against us - that's why we didn't win the league Suarez missed the first 6 games of the season - that's why we didn't win the league Gerrard was past his best - that's why we didn't win the league We had lengthy involvement in both cups - that's why we didn't win the league Sterling's finishing was comical at times - that's why we didn't win the league Not enough victories - that's why we didn't win the league You cannot put it down to just 'one thing'. You are the one talking nonsense. We didn't win the league because we conceded too many which includes Gerard slip. Gerard slip would have had no effect if they hadn't score. We had the second best number of goals scored but 5th or 6th best on gaols conceded. This is where we lost the league. We were for example winning 0-2 against Everton and ended up drawing, same with Crystal Palace though the latter didn't count for much. If we had kept a clean sheet against Chelsea and conceded one less against City, we would have won it. Brenda is a very poor defensive coach.
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They may have made the decision already mate.The way Rodgers is mumbling and trying to cleanse his CV of late by blaming everything around him he looks like a goner...hopefully. Well there was talk that Henry had made up his mind but Warner convinced him otherwise. But I don't expect them to act yet and would not be surprised if he's still here come the summer.
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We were for example winning 0-2 against Everton and ended up drawing
No, this was in BR's first season. In the season we came second the game at Everton was 3-3, we went 1-0 up and then 2-1 up before falling 3-2 behind with Sturridge scoring the equaliser. I understand your point though.
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If we had scored 2 more vs city in the boxing day game where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed, we'd have been champions as well.....
If we'd scored 2 vs southampton, we'd have been champions as well....
So our failure can just as easily be put down to not scoring enough goals. Or any other pointless argument you want to use.
You can use any combination of 'ifs & buts' you like, but you cannot simply say we lost the league because of goals conceded. Unless you're a d1ck.
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If we had scored 2 more vs city in the boxing day game where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed, we'd have been champions as well.....
If we'd scored 2 vs southampton, we'd have been champions as well....
So our failure can just as easily be put down to not scoring enough goals. Or any other pointless argument you want to use.
You can use any combination of 'ifs & buts' you like, but you cannot simply say we lost the league because of goals conceded. Unless you're a d1ck.
It doesn't work like that, we scored enough to win the league, above 100 which historically is enough. However, no club has win the EPL with such a bad defensive record, this is how you need to see it when you try to understand where the weaknesses are. Not everybody can analyse football unfortunately
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If we had scored 2 more vs city in the boxing day game where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed, we'd have been champions as well.....
If we'd scored 2 vs southampton, we'd have been champions as well....
So our failure can just as easily be put down to not scoring enough goals. Or any other pointless argument you want to use.
You can use any combination of 'ifs & buts' you like, but you cannot simply say we lost the league because of goals conceded. Unless you're a d1ck.
It doesn't work like that, we scored enough to win the league, above 100 which historically is enough. However, no club has win the EPL with such a bad defensive record, this is how you need to see it when you try to understand where the weaknesses are. Not everybody can analyse football unfortunately Clearly not. Teams have won leagues conceding goals in the high 40s before. Teams have won leagues and only scored 50 or 60 goals before. "Goal difference" is a far better barometer. That said, our goals difference was good enough to have won the EPL on many previous occasions. So there you go, it really isn't as simple as saying 'we should have let in less goals'.
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If we had scored 2 more vs city in the boxing day game where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed, we'd have been champions as well.....
If we'd scored 2 vs southampton, we'd have been champions as well....
So our failure can just as easily be put down to not scoring enough goals. Or any other pointless argument you want to use.
You can use any combination of 'ifs & buts' you like, but you cannot simply say we lost the league because of goals conceded. Unless you're a d1ck.
It doesn't work like that, we scored enough to win the league, above 100 which historically is enough. However, no club has win the EPL with such a bad defensive record, this is how you need to see it when you try to understand where the weaknesses are. Not everybody can analyse football unfortunately Clearly not. Teams have won leagues conceding goals in the high 40s before. Teams have won leagues and only scored 50 or 60 goals before. "Goal difference" is a far better barometer. That said, our goals difference was good enough to have won the EPL on many previous occasions. So there you go, it really isn't as simple as saying 'we should have let in less goals'. No team has ever won the league with the 6th best number of goals conceded
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If we had scored 2 more vs city in the boxing day game where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed, we'd have been champions as well.....
If we'd scored 2 vs southampton, we'd have been champions as well....
So our failure can just as easily be put down to not scoring enough goals. Or any other pointless argument you want to use.
You can use any combination of 'ifs & buts' you like, but you cannot simply say we lost the league because of goals conceded. Unless you're a d1ck.
It doesn't work like that, we scored enough to win the league, above 100 which historically is enough. However, no club has win the EPL with such a bad defensive record, this is how you need to see it when you try to understand where the weaknesses are. Not everybody can analyse football unfortunately Clearly not. Teams have won leagues conceding goals in the high 40s before. Teams have won leagues and only scored 50 or 60 goals before. "Goal difference" is a far better barometer. That said, our goals difference was good enough to have won the EPL on many previous occasions. So there you go, it really isn't as simple as saying 'we should have let in less goals'. No team has ever won the league with the 6th best number of goals conceded I despair, i really do. Let's move on.
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sorry if this topic has been done to death, its been a while since i've been on.
i was at tonights game and i would like to make a few points about the match and the managers performance in general and would love to hear other peoples thoughts. i would like to point out that i have always been a big supporter for rodgers but i think time is running out for him now and he's beginning to be found out. he just isn't good enough:
first of all, his reluctance to play 2 up top is costing us.
this is his fourth season in charge and he still can't find his best team / system.
we still can't defend / have no defensive coach... despite having the one of the worst defensive records in the last 4 years.
we make random substitutions that have zero impact on the game and our bench was very weak tonight, another sign of arrogance... (where is the logic is bringing coutinho on and brining of your main striker? / what is the point in replacing toure for sakho?)
he's blaming "not having the right tools to do the job". all of the players who have left, suarez, gerrard and sterling were already at the club before he joined. he's had £300m to spend yet still doesn't have the tools? a bad workman's excuse! absolute cop out.
we always, without doubt, manage to fail in europe one way or another. god help us if we actually make the top 4 again under his management. we are gonna get embarrassed again in the CL. this man just does not have what it takes to compete in Europe, plain and simple. always comes off second best to any half decent manager out there.
when was the last time we actually won a game in europe?
there is no plan b. there is no game changing substitution ever. you never see him switch to a 4-4-2 in desperate attempt to win a game. we look just as vulnerable with 3/5 at the back. he's a one trick pony.
he signed markovic for £20m, yet one year later decides his liverpool career is over and persists with jordon ibe instead. couldn't this decision have been made a year ago and the extra £20m could have been put towards a much better striker? same goes for paying £5m for the manquillo two year loan and farming out wisdom, only to cancel the deal half way through.
i think managers like benitez were always on the same wave length as the fans. they understood the traditions of the club and bought into the liverpool way. LFC is a family after all. rodgers seems to be so disconnected with the fans and almost delusional at times... still talking about the top spot after the aston villa game. then blaming he doesn't have the right tools to do the job. just admit we've not been good enough and you're gonna do your all to put it right. we're a million miles away from sitting at the top of the table, so why even say something like that in a press conference? he's got some cheek!
we lose the 4th best striker in the world and replace him with a meat factory worker. oh and balotelli.
i think its time boys and girls. i'm not one to bash managers and show them disrespect but i just don't think its worked out for him in the end. wish him all the best
I hope you booed in the stadium and left early. i never. i stayed until the final whistle and decided not to join in with the boo'ing. considering the amount of young players on the pitch i didn't think it was fair for them to get that kind of treatment, even if it was at the incompetent managers expense
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