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Every negative is also seized a pun in this place Stan so what's wrong with what scouser does?
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This is Lallana's second season not his first senior game. There is no justification in him being in the starting 11 at all.
We will be far better when BR picks players on merit and not on trying to justify price tags and nullify transfer mistakes on pure stubbornness. If any player belongs at the club then they should expect to have to work their way into the team on hard work, form and merit.
It's a promising first game but to read as much as that into it RS maybe jumping the gun a tad. OK Lallana was a bit disappointing against Stoke. I wanted Lallana to start this game and I wasn't conscious of the price tag. All players have off days. I know he didn't have a great season last year but that was affected by a variety of things. For me this is Lallana's make or break season. I think Brendan's right to give him further opportunities. The reason why he cost £23/25 million (apart from him being English and a bit inflated) is that he was top performer in the premier league for Southampton. He has got obvious talent. On performances alone for Liverpool it is debatable whether he should be in the team but I think he will kick on this season.
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A few more things to add:
- With benteke up front, we can now play both direct long balls or short from defence. At least we have a plan B. Teams now won't dare play too high up and pressure our defense like last season.
- We have shored up our midfield and we have much more energy now. A trio of Can, Milner and Hendo can control a midfield with energy.
- Tracking back with discipline - Milner does that! How many times have we conceded goals last season because of the huge gapping hole around the top of our box due to our midfield not tracking back? (sorry this is not a pot shot at SG)
- Our midfield is tight now but our attack is still stale. We were lucky to get the win thanks for moment of magic from Coutinho. We need to have a better plan B and the front 3 attackers must impose themselves more. Some good points. I agree on another day we may not have been as lucky.
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Every negative is also seized a pun in this place Stan so what's wrong with what scouser does? Nothing at all we are all entitled to our opinions
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For me this is Lallana's make or break season. I think Brendan's right to give him further opportunities. The reason why he cost £23/25 million (apart from him being English and a bit inflated) is that he was top performer in the premier league for Southampton. He has got obvious talent. On performances alone for Liverpool it is debatable whether he should be in the team but I think he will kick on this season.
I would argue he should only start in the easier home games which is a poor return on a player who cost £25mil. He doesn't seem to be able to play 90mins or cope against the more physical teams.
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Lallana hasn't hit the ground running (I'm surprised I havn't seen anyone ask for Texieira to replace him yet). Stoke still are a very physical team. I think it is very harsh to start judging a player against this sort of team on the first game of the season and away from home. A fairer test will be the next game against Bournemouth at home.
Brendan is ruthless in his squad selection. Lucas has shown loyalty towards us over the years but was omitted from the matchday squad. I commend Brendan for this. The team comes first, individuals second. He doesn't suit Brendan's new setup. Let's hope part-time footballers Enrique, Balo and Borini get the message as well.
Gomez showed his inexperience but still impressed. Wisdom better play out of his skin this season or he will probably be sold on.
Early Benteke signs look promising but its still work in progress.
Brendan still has faith in Dejan Lovren - and he repaid his faith with a solid performance.
Brendan and his players show great character and a winning mentality. Brendan emphatically silenced his doubters with this result. In the 85th minute many of you were probably thinking we had run out of ideas and the boring mid table manager jibe was about to recycled for the umpteenth time. In the 86th minute we saw the character and resilience of the team. Tactically superb. An uppercut to the jaw to all those people who hung Brendan out to dry over the summer (this is not specifically a reference to anyone on Koptalk).
Milner lives up to his reputation.
We will need to grind out more wins like this to finish in the top 4. It is an art form. We need to perfect this art if we want success.
Coutinho is quickly becoming our most precious player. Big players step up in big matches. Coutinho stepped up. What was tactically superb to you, the goal? There was not much tactical there but a super shot from one player, unless you say Rodgers planned for Coutinho to score on the 87th minute. Defensively we were not bad though. And it's not one game that's going to make Rodgers' career.
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Lallana hasn't hit the ground running (I'm surprised I havn't seen anyone ask for Texieira to replace him yet). Stoke still are a very physical team. I think it is very harsh to start judging a player against this sort of team on the first game of the season and away from home. A fairer test will be the next game against Bournemouth at home.
Brendan is ruthless in his squad selection. Lucas has shown loyalty towards us over the years but was omitted from the matchday squad. I commend Brendan for this. The team comes first, individuals second. He doesn't suit Brendan's new setup. Let's hope part-time footballers Enrique, Balo and Borini get the message as well.
Gomez showed his inexperience but still impressed. Wisdom better play out of his skin this season or he will probably be sold on.
Early Benteke signs look promising but its still work in progress.
Brendan still has faith in Dejan Lovren - and he repaid his faith with a solid performance.
Brendan and his players show great character and a winning mentality. Brendan emphatically silenced his doubters with this result. In the 85th minute many of you were probably thinking we had run out of ideas and the boring mid table manager jibe was about to recycled for the umpteenth time. In the 86th minute we saw the character and resilience of the team. Tactically superb. An uppercut to the jaw to all those people who hung Brendan out to dry over the summer (this is not specifically a reference to anyone on Koptalk).
Milner lives up to his reputation.
We will need to grind out more wins like this to finish in the top 4. It is an art form. We need to perfect this art if we want success.
Coutinho is quickly becoming our most precious player. Big players step up in big matches. Coutinho stepped up. What was tactically superb to you, the goal? There was not much tactical there but a super shot from one player, unless you say Rodgers planned for Coutinho to score on the 87th minute. Defensively we were not bad though. And it's not one game that's going to make Rodgers' career. Everything upto the goal. The way we stayed solid for pretty much the whole of the game and were in with a chance of winning the game right until the end. There was no suggestion we were getting desperate or hanging on for the draw. Just by probability a higher quality frontline is more likely to score.
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Lallana hasn't hit the ground running (I'm surprised I havn't seen anyone ask for Texieira to replace him yet). Stoke still are a very physical team. I think it is very harsh to start judging a player against this sort of team on the first game of the season and away from home. A fairer test will be the next game against Bournemouth at home.
Brendan is ruthless in his squad selection. Lucas has shown loyalty towards us over the years but was omitted from the matchday squad. I commend Brendan for this. The team comes first, individuals second. He doesn't suit Brendan's new setup. Let's hope part-time footballers Enrique, Balo and Borini get the message as well.
Gomez showed his inexperience but still impressed. Wisdom better play out of his skin this season or he will probably be sold on.
Early Benteke signs look promising but its still work in progress.
Brendan still has faith in Dejan Lovren - and he repaid his faith with a solid performance.
Brendan and his players show great character and a winning mentality. Brendan emphatically silenced his doubters with this result. In the 85th minute many of you were probably thinking we had run out of ideas and the boring mid table manager jibe was about to recycled for the umpteenth time. In the 86th minute we saw the character and resilience of the team. Tactically superb. An uppercut to the jaw to all those people who hung Brendan out to dry over the summer (this is not specifically a reference to anyone on Koptalk).
Milner lives up to his reputation.
We will need to grind out more wins like this to finish in the top 4. It is an art form. We need to perfect this art if we want success.
Coutinho is quickly becoming our most precious player. Big players step up in big matches. Coutinho stepped up. What was tactically superb to you, the goal? There was not much tactical there but a super shot from one player, unless you say Rodgers planned for Coutinho to score on the 87th minute. Defensively we were not bad though. And it's not one game that's going to make Rodgers' career. Everything upto the goal. The way we stayed solid for pretty much the whole of the game and were in with a chance of winning the game right until the end. There was no suggestion we were getting desperate or hanging on for the draw. Just by probability a higher quality frontline is more likely to score. We created very few chances but were relatively solid at the back. Our tactics were taking us to a draw so see nothing superb there. Not sure what you are upto, unless the tactics was not to concede.
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You see nothing superb in the tactics used which are the same tactics you applaud when your man Maureen uses them? Don't get that!
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Maybe the 6-1 tactics from last year were so much better?
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