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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
That's why I said 'kind of forced'.

For me he would have been better playing 2 up front last season regardless of who they were or by playing a striker instead of Sterling when going 1 up. But if you look all the way back to the Spurs game, arguably our best performance last season, we had 2 up top and I think that's how he wanted it all season and will next.


One game doesn't prove much. Stoke doesn't have a better team than us despite beating us 6-1. Even when Sturridge was back after injury he didn't play him with Balotelli. Rodgers preferred team is a 433 with one striker.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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That's why I said 'kind of forced'.

For me he would have been better playing 2 up front last season regardless of who they were or by playing a striker instead of Sterling when going 1 up. But if you look all the way back to the Spurs game, arguably our best performance last season, we had 2 up top and I think that's how he wanted it all season and will next.


One game doesn't prove much. Stoke doesn't have a better team than us despite beating us 6-1. Even when Sturridge was back after injury he didn't play him with Balotelli. Rodgers preferred team is a 433 with one striker.


He went more 3521 which helped the defence a lot so didn't want to change. That left just one space up front. Had Sturridge stayed fit after that England game I'm pretty sure he would have stayed 2 up with him and Mario.

Don't get what you're on about with the Stoke comment?

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lambert went ultra defensive at villa, as soon as sherwood took over and went on the attack benteke was the most inform striker in the prem. As BR likes to attack and we have more creative players than villa one would hope benteke can kick in loads of goals. He is a beast of a player and only going to get better. I'd pay the release clause, might not be worth it but most prices are over inflated .


Will Rodgers play to his strengths if he is signed?

If we left with Sturridge, Origi, Ings and Benteke after the window shuts - will he play two strikers?

I just can't see how all these guys will be happy if he keeps playing 1 up top as he has done this season.


I agree with EMP (not on the release fee though as it's way too high and we need to knock that down a bit). I don't think Rodgers will continue with 1 up front next year and I think he only did last year as he was kind of forced into it.


I don't think Rodgers was forced to play with only one striker as he had 3 (Borini, Balotelli and Lambert) who he brought in while in charge, at his disposal and rarely used them. I actually think he was forced to play 2 when non of Suarez and Sturridge could be benched.


You're spot on in my opinion. When Rodgers first came he spoke about his ideal formation etc which was with 1 up top and the only reason he changed to two was because Suarez and Sturridge became undroppable. As soon as he didn't have 2 undroppable strikers he reverted to type. He quite clearly prefers/preferred one up top. As it worked as well a microwave made of cheese lets hope he FINALLY sees the error of his ways.

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You are confusing droppable with shyte. After Suarez left and with Sturridge out injured, you couldn't have blamed him if he'd played with NO strikers because he really had none. Lambert, Borini and Balotelli are all pure shyte, nothng more. I'm not saying this in his defense because after all, these were the strikers that he brought -or agreed to be brought- to the club.

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Mario is Mario, but Lambert and Borini I feel every time they got game and showed glimpses of what they can offer, they get dropped the very next game. Strikers need alot of game time to improve. Sterling was sh@t in front of goal but still got play as striker.

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Mario is Mario, but Lambert and Borini I feel every time they got game and showed glimpses of what they can offer, they get dropped the very next game. Strikers need alot of game time to improve. Sterling was sh@t in front of goal but still got play as striker.


Sterling might have been Sh&t in front of goal, but he is a hell of a lot better than borini or Lambert. They offered absolutely nothing

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Mario is Mario, but Lambert and Borini I feel every time they got game and showed glimpses of what they can offer, they get dropped the very next game. Strikers need alot of game time to improve. Sterling was sh@t in front of goal but still got play as striker.


Sterling might have been Sh&t in front of goal, but he is a hell of a lot better than borini or Lambert. They offered absolutely nothing


I wonder how much anyone can offer when they are never given a chance to play consistently. Sterling is overrated, started believing his own hype and had minimal end product.


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Originally Posted By: imadk
You are confusing droppable with shyte. After Suarez left and with Sturridge out injured, you couldn't have blamed him if he'd played with NO strikers because he really had none. Lambert, Borini and Balotelli are all pure shyte, nothng more. I'm not saying this in his defense because after all, these were the strikers that he brought -or agreed to be brought- to the club.


If it was say for instance Carlo Ancelotti or Jose Mourinho making those decisions about those strikers seeing them everyday in training and tweaking his system to get optimal results from them I'd believe them. I struggle to believe BR because he built up Borini when he signed him. Stating he was excellent and never really used him last season, he returned from loan with his confidence sky high was benched and never used. The same BR also sold Lambert to us as our plan B. Balotelli doesn't fit our system and similar to Benteke will struggle without service.

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Mario is Mario, but Lambert and Borini I feel every time they got game and showed glimpses of what they can offer, they get dropped the very next game. Strikers need alot of game time to improve. Sterling was sh@t in front of goal but still got play as striker.


Sterling might have been Sh&t in front of goal, but he is a hell of a lot better than borini or Lambert. They offered absolutely nothing


I wonder how much anyone can offer when they are never given a chance to play consistently. Sterling is overrated, started believing his own hype and had minimal end product.


Sterling is overrated, but Clubs like Chelsea, City, utd, Real Madrid & Bayern Munich were and are sniffing around him.

Borini & Lambert are ok players, but not good enough for LFC. Stevie Wonder could tell you this

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The purchase of Borini reflected the fact that Rodgers didn't realise, perhaps, just what outstanding finished products really look like. Borini probably looked quality alongside some of the players he'd worked with at Swansea - and no disrespect intended. I'm surprised that, having worked with Suarez and Sturridge, he didn't go straight in for Lacazette and Firmino when he had a much better chance of maintaining continuity by doing so, last year. Why, when they were available, and we had CL, we went for Mario is, to me, one of the most puzzling events of recent times. We could all see Mario was not a good fit. How is it that the football professionals running LFC couldn't see it? I think Benteke is a better fit than Mario, but still not the player we really need. Stump up the fee for Lacazette and use the extra money you wouldn't have to pay Villa to make a better pay package for Lacazette. I think, if that was the final purchase, we'd be better equipped than last year, by a mile. If we could bring in a mid to replace SG (Barclay comes to mind but probs not feasible) we'd be flying.

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