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quiet funny actually. its cringe time when he opens his gob.
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You honestly though Southampton was going to finish in the Top 6 this season?
Also we brought in plenty of personnel the season before yet we managed to finish second.
If football was as simple as you suggest then what is the point of even playing. They should just see who spends the most and then award the league places accordingly.
Accepting 5th or 6th because that is where we are on the financial table shows an awful lack of ambition.
I don't think Palace, Hull, Aston Villa, Stoke or West Ham were fazed by the fact that we were the 5th biggest spenders in the league when they beat us this season.
Put whatever spin you like on it but our final position this season was unacceptable and the manager is ultimately responsible for results.
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He must certainly keep Andrex in business. How many rolls of tissue does it take to wipe away all the sh!t that comes from his mouth??
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Why is everyone pretending to be surprised at us coming 6th? We finished 2nd last season and added over 100 million worth of talent to the team. We should have made top 4 with relative ease. We knew that Suarez wanted out of the club for over a year, plans should have been in place for his replacement. Rodgers brought in another hot-head in Balotelli, who should have been good for 20+ goals, only for Rodgers not to adapt his tactics to accommodate Mario and instead left him isolated or left on the bench. Lambert was also brought in for cover, a guy who is more than capable of scoring 10 goals; again he gets left on the bench or gets insulting 3 minute cameo's, Origi a player Rodgers describes as potentially World Class, gets bought for 10 million, only to be sent back out on loan. We knew that Gerrard was approaching the end of his contract, plans should have been in place to find a replacement. Rodgers brought in Lallana, only to not play him for half a season. Lucas has injury issues, we addressed that by signing Can; only for Rodgers to then play him out of position at Right back or in central defence, that was after deciding not to play him for large periods of the season. Brendan decides that his tactics weren't to blame for last seasons defensive mishaps, so throws another 20 million down the drain on a defender who had half a good season; before taking pot shots at the fans who told him to get a defensive minded coach, sends Coates, Ilori, Wisdom etc out on loan, rather than giving them a chance. The committee decide to bring in another Don Balon listed youngster who is expected to do big things in the game, Rodgers decides to let him rot on the bench, before playing him out of position, which then sets Markovic's career back another year. Borini; a player who scored 10 goals last season and helped keep Sunderland in the league doesn't get a look in, despite the fact that he can play as a left winger or a striker, an area we were [oops] in. Aspas and Alberto, 2 of Rodgers Spanish signings from the season before are sent out on loan and never given a chance. We are 6th because of Rodgers, another manager would have done much better with this team.
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As I've said since christmas, Rodgers will stay into next year. FSG's decision makers are smart people and getting Liverpool to the top table isn't on their priority list. Anfield will still get filled up, sponsorship will still be the same, blah blah blah even though we lost 6-1 to Stoke, so quite rightly they won't base a judgement on a defeat that didn't mean anything. Everything is perfectly on course for them, they care about the money. That can't be any disputing that if they keep Rodgers, as he obviously deserves the boot.
Rodgers will be here till Christmas or next summer, where he will fail again, sign more mediocrity with maybe 1 big player FSG decide upon to placate the fans. he will fail to get top 4 because it's much harder next season and he couldn't do it in an easy season, and will lose his job. At that point will point another nobody. Nothing to see here for a good long while. Of course this is just opinion and I could look like a mug tomorrow after FSG agree to pay for Ancelotti's back surgery and he comes here out of grattitude, but we will see.
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As I've said since christmas, Rodgers will stay into next year. FSG's decision makers are smart people and getting Liverpool to the top table isn't on their priority list. Anfield will still get filled up, sponsorship will still be the same, blah blah blah even though we lost 6-1 to Stoke, so quite rightly they won't base a judgement on a defeat that didn't mean anything. Everything is perfectly on course for them, they care about the money. That can't be any disputing that if they keep Rodgers, as he obviously deserves the boot.
Rodgers will be here till Christmas or next summer, where he will fail again, sign more mediocrity with maybe 1 big player FSG decide upon to placate the fans. he will fail to get top 4 because it's much harder next season and he couldn't do it in an easy season, and will lose his job. At that point will point another nobody. Nothing to see here for a good long while. Of course this is just opinion and I could look like a mug tomorrow after FSG agree to pay for Ancelotti's back surgery and he comes here out of grattitude, but we will see. Unfortunately I think you are spot on.
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As I've said since christmas, Rodgers will stay into next year. FSG's decision makers are smart people and getting Liverpool to the top table isn't on their priority list. Anfield will still get filled up, sponsorship will still be the same, blah blah blah even though we lost 6-1 to Stoke, so quite rightly they won't base a judgement on a defeat that didn't mean anything. Everything is perfectly on course for them, they care about the money. That can't be any disputing that if they keep Rodgers, as he obviously deserves the boot.
Rodgers will be here till Christmas or next summer, where he will fail again, sign more mediocrity with maybe 1 big player FSG decide upon to placate the fans. he will fail to get top 4 because it's much harder next season and he couldn't do it in an easy season, and will lose his job. At that point will point another nobody. Nothing to see here for a good long while. Of course this is just opinion and I could look like a mug tomorrow after FSG agree to pay for Ancelotti's back surgery and he comes here out of grattitude, but we will see. I'm with you and think this is more or less what will happen.
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You honestly though Southampton was going to finish in the Top 6 this season?
Also we brought in plenty of personnel the season before yet we managed to finish second.
If football was as simple as you suggest then what is the point of even playing. They should just see who spends the most and then award the league places accordingly.
Accepting 5th or 6th because that is where we are on the financial table shows an awful lack of ambition.
I don't think Palace, Hull, Aston Villa, Stoke or West Ham were fazed by the fact that we were the 5th biggest spenders in the league when they beat us this season.
Put whatever spin you like on it but our final position this season was unacceptable and the manager is ultimately responsible for results.
Why is everyone pretending to be surprised at us coming 6th? We finished 2nd last season and added over 100 million worth of talent to the team. We should have made top 4 with relative ease. We knew that Suarez wanted out of the club for over a year, plans should have been in place for his replacement. Rodgers brought in another hot-head in Balotelli, who should have been good for 20+ goals, only for Rodgers not to adapt his tactics to accommodate Mario and instead left him isolated or left on the bench. Lambert was also brought in for cover, a guy who is more than capable of scoring 10 goals; again he gets left on the bench or gets insulting 3 minute cameo's, Origi a player Rodgers describes as potentially World Class, gets bought for 10 million, only to be sent back out on loan. We knew that Gerrard was approaching the end of his contract, plans should have been in place to find a replacement. Rodgers brought in Lallana, only to not play him for half a season. Lucas has injury issues, we addressed that by signing Can; only for Rodgers to then play him out of position at Right back or in central defence, that was after deciding not to play him for large periods of the season. Brendan decides that his tactics weren't to blame for last seasons defensive mishaps, so throws another 20 million down the drain on a defender who had half a good season; before taking pot shots at the fans who told him to get a defensive minded coach, sends Coates, Ilori, Wisdom etc out on loan, rather than giving them a chance. The committee decide to bring in another Don Balon listed youngster who is expected to do big things in the game, Rodgers decides to let him rot on the bench, before playing him out of position, which then sets Markovic's career back another year. Borini; a player who scored 10 goals last season and helped keep Sunderland in the league doesn't get a look in, despite the fact that he can play as a left winger or a striker, an area we were [oops] in. Aspas and Alberto, 2 of Rodgers Spanish signings from the season before are sent out on loan and never given a chance. We are 6th because of Rodgers, another manager would have done much better with this team. My point is that the quality of your players against that of your competitors determines more or less where you finish in a league table. When you look at our signings and the players available to us this season and compare that to the signings and the players available to our competitors it should be fairly obvious where we would finish. Imo, in any reasonable discussion between football people that point shouldn’t really be a point of dispute. What then should we be discussing? again imo the discussion should be centred on recruitment that resulted in us signing so many players in successive windows that are not up to the job. Given the recruitment structures and policies including fee and wage restrictions laid down by FSG it is my contention that the spending of 212m on around 20 prospective players giving an average fee of about 12m each as well as wage restrictions is the root cause of the mediocrity that now afflicts us. I don’t dispute that manager hunting is great fun, what I do dispute is whether or not the manager is the right prey in our situation.
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