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I don't think that is fair RedScouser. The difference is that Klopp has experience of performing at the top of the table for Dortmund and looks comfortable managing in Europe, both of which Rodgers has been unable to do this season, and the latter for two. I think he is the best type of manager that we would want, and Rodgers just falls behind that. Nothing to do with grass being greener. More to do with the chance of trading up from a riskier manager, to one with less risk. The same reason fans want names over less names - they've made themselves known for a reason.
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I don't think that is fair RedScouser. The difference is that Klopp has experience of performing at the top of the table for Dortmund and looks comfortable managing in Europe, both of which Rodgers has been unable to do this season, and the latter for two. I think he is the best type of manager that we would want, and Rodgers just falls behind that. Nothing to do with grass being greener. More to do with the chance of trading up from a riskier manager, to one with less risk. The same reason fans want names over less names - they've made themselves known for a reason. You are right except that Rodgers falls well behind not just behind.
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Rodgers is a league behind, best thing for Rodgers to do is to go to a team in the championship or take on a team who's only ambition is to stay up. That's his level.
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I don't think that is fair RedScouser. The difference is that Klopp has experience of performing at the top of the table for Dortmund and looks comfortable managing in Europe, both of which Rodgers has been unable to do this season, and the latter for two. I think he is the best type of manager that we would want, and Rodgers just falls behind that. Nothing to do with grass being greener. More to do with the chance of trading up from a riskier manager, to one with less risk. The same reason fans want names over less names - they've made themselves known for a reason. Alright fair enough I exaggerated my point a little. There have been times when Klopp has failed to get Dortmund out of the group stage of the champions league and finishing 7th in the bundesliga this year is a poor return. Rafa underachieved in the league in a lot of seasons. Rodgers should be given another year in my opinion. What's the worst that can happen, we finish 6th again? But if the fans carry on turning on him then yes he should go. I can't help but feel though that because of who Klopp is (not what he's won), there will be an excitement like when we sign players who have never played in the epl before. It's like when Liverpool were after Gareth Barry to replace Alonso and they got Aquilani. Everyone was pleased we didn't get Gareth Barry but looking back he would probably have been the better option.
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I don't think that is fair RedScouser. The difference is that Klopp has experience of performing at the top of the table for Dortmund and looks comfortable managing in Europe, both of which Rodgers has been unable to do this season, and the latter for two. I think he is the best type of manager that we would want, and Rodgers just falls behind that. Nothing to do with grass being greener. More to do with the chance of trading up from a riskier manager, to one with less risk. The same reason fans want names over less names - they've made themselves known for a reason. Alright fair enough I exaggerated my point a little. There have been times when Klopp has failed to get Dortmund out of the group stage of the champions league and finishing 7th in the bundesliga this year is a poor return. Rafa underachieved in the league in a lot of seasons. Rodgers should be given another year in my opinion. What's the worst that can happen, we finish 6th again? But if the fans carry on turning on him then yes he should go. I can't help but feel though that because of who Klopp is (not what he's won), there will be an excitement like when we sign players who have never played in the epl before. It's like when Liverpool were after Gareth Barry to replace Alonso and they got Aquilani. Everyone was pleased we didn't get Gareth Barry but looking back he would probably have been the better option. Get relegated be the next Newcastle
noun [oops]·trar·i·an \kən-ˈtrer-ē-ən, kän-\.
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The worst that could happen is that Rodgers loses the entire dressing room, he brings in a few more duds whilst getting rid of our more experienced players, we start next season how we ended this one and find or selves in the bottom half of the table, completely out of the running for top 4 by November and then the fans start calling for his head which sets us back by another year.
Also Rafa didn't want Barry to replace alonso, so get your facts straight.
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not many of us want him here,but it will be cheaper for FSG to give him another chance so that's what will happen.its sad but its probably true.we will miss the chance to get Klopp and end up with someone we don't want after another poor season next year.oh the joy!
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And all of this could happen under Klopp. But it would be OK if we finished 15th next season if Klopp was in charge. The only person stopping him from carrying on is the fans or if the owners want to go in a new direction. The first time fans smell blood they go for him. And it's not just down to poor results, its the fact that fans always want to see new faces they've never seen before that are not neccessary better than what we've got. And it's why thankfully passionate (which is good) but impatient fans don't make these decisions because we will end up going round and round in years of transition without ever having stability.
And yes I'm not denying Klopp has a better reputation but it doesn't mean it would end up better.
What did happen with Barry and Alonso then?
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Brendan should be given another year. The only reason why a lot you want him replaced is because you think we will get Klopp who is perceived as more stylish and charismatic than Rodgers. The fact that he's foreign and got an unusual surname (to English speakers) somehow makes him better. If his name was say Nigel Smith and he was born in Bolton and spoke with a Lancashire accent then none of you would be banging on about him. But of course, when Klopp has a few bad results (and he will), everything will be OK because he has got long wavy golden hair and a pair of designer glasses to make up for it. Superficial the lot of you. Yeah that's it, it's not like he has league titles or a champions league final to his name...oh wait....
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Brendan should be given another year. The only reason why a lot you want him replaced is because you think we will get Klopp who is perceived as more stylish and charismatic than Rodgers. The fact that he's foreign and got an unusual surname (to English speakers) somehow makes him better. If his name was say Nigel Smith and he was born in Bolton and spoke with a Lancashire accent then none of you would be banging on about him. But of course, when Klopp has a few bad results (and he will), everything will be OK because he has got long wavy golden hair and a pair of designer glasses to make up for it. Superficial the lot of you. Yeah that's it, it's not like he has league titles or a champions league final to his name...oh wait.... Why do we always think we should turn to ready-made replacements? we are not Chelsea or City where we can throw tons of money around and get success like that. If you look at Dortmund who have been considerably more successful than us over the last few years, they've gone for another young manager with potential like Klopp was before he joined Dortmund. But of course Liverpool have to have everything now and big expensive names to make it happen.
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