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Originally Posted By: RedScouser
You have a go at who we've bought yet a lot of them could still end being very good players in the future.

Moreno - made a lot of mistakes but got a lot of potential
Can - inconsistent, got potential
Markovic - needs time to adapt, got potential
Manquillo - probably not good enough, but only a loan deal
Lovren - disappointing, give him one more season
Lallana - played well when not injured
Balotelli - hasn't fit in at Liverpool, but got obvious talents

Surely you don't expect young players who have never played in England before to be revelations straight away?


Moreno certainly has potential, certainly deserving of another year. But has not had a good first year.

Can had a good first year. Bags of potential. Has fallen victim to being played out of position.

Markovic has limited potential based mainly on his speed. Has a chance to be top 4 quality but it's only a chance. 0 chance to be a top player in my opinion. Certainly worth waiting another year on or so now he's here. Ridiculously overpriced hence why no one else wanted him for 20 million.

Lovren I'm incredibly surprised went badly. I got that totally wrong, I thought he was a great purchase just 5m too expensive. Again worth waiting to see how he does.

Lallana was always going to be a terrible purchase for anything more than 10 million and so he has proven to be. Been gash and ineffectual when not injured, certainly not good. Only delivers something when the team is already playing well and we are in control, 25 million that could have been spent so much more wisely it should be reason enough alone to get rid of Rodgers.

Balotelli has obvious talents, and obviously was not going to consistently fit in with any system Rodgers had used previously. Terrible buy but I feel like Rodgers was slightly forced into this due to circumstance of no top player wanting to come to us without crazy money and us leaving it too late again. So I don't completely blame Rodgers for Balotelli.

If only ifs and buts were candies and nuts, sure some of them have a chance of being good players but it's about could that money have been better spent? Almost every pound of the 200+ million he has spent in the last 3 years can answer that question with a resounding yes.

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Naive? No. Stubborn and egoistical. Can't admit he's out of his depth.
Koeman and Monk have teams that had their best players sold and with much less investment. Yet, Southampton and Swansea were only 2 and 6 points back.
You don't see those two offering their outstanding views/excuses/bold predictions weekly. Just get on with business and put points on the board.
The sooner BR admits it and resigns, the better for Liverpool.

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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions

I think Frank De Boer would do a better job within the parameters and there could be others.


Don't know why De Boer's name keeps getting mentioned, Ajax finished 17 points behind PSV in a poor Dutch league!


He also won 4 Dutch leagues before this season while Rodgers has won nothing.

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I think Rodgers might be playing it clever.

He wants out but wants to be kicked out so he gets a pay off and is manufacturing everything to make it so.

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Originally Posted By: elimmel
Naive? No. Stubborn and egoistical. Can't admit he's out of his depth.
Koeman and Monk have teams that had their best players sold and with much less investment. Yet, Southampton and Swansea were only 2 and 6 points back.
You don't see those two offering their outstanding views/excuses/bold predictions weekly. Just get on with business and put points on the board.
The sooner BR admits it and resigns, the better for Liverpool.


The reason why he has to make these claims/predictions is to appease Liverpool fans who want success like we had in the 70s and 80s. It's not Brendan fault we aren't challenging for the league every year. If Gary Monk finishes 16th next year nothings is said. There is an expectation at Liverpool that grossly overreflects reality. I'm not saying Brendan has done a good job. He has made quite a few strange decisions at times. And I won't be surprised if was sacked. But don't expect another manager to come in and wave his magic wand.

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions

I think Frank De Boer would do a better job within the parameters and there could be others.


Don't know why De Boer's name keeps getting mentioned, Ajax finished 17 points behind PSV in a poor Dutch league!


He also won 4 Dutch leagues before this season while Rodgers has won nothing.


Big step up to come to Liverpool and compete for the Top 4 with the quality thats already in the league! I want Rodgers gone but it has to be for Klopp or Ancelotti if he leaves Real Madrid!

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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
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Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions

I think Frank De Boer would do a better job within the parameters and there could be others.


Don't know why De Boer's name keeps getting mentioned, Ajax finished 17 points behind PSV in a poor Dutch league!


He also won 4 Dutch leagues before this season while Rodgers has won nothing.


Rodgers won a play-off final which is probably more important than a Dutch league title. Certainly in a financial sense.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser
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Naive? No. Stubborn and egoistical. Can't admit he's out of his depth.
Koeman and Monk have teams that had their best players sold and with much less investment. Yet, Southampton and Swansea were only 2 and 6 points back.
You don't see those two offering their outstanding views/excuses/bold predictions weekly. Just get on with business and put points on the board.
The sooner BR admits it and resigns, the better for Liverpool.


The reason why he has to make these claims/predictions is to appease Liverpool fans who want success like we had in the 70s and 80s. It's not Brendan fault we aren't challenging for the league every year. If Gary Monk finishes 16th next year nothings is said. There is an expectation at Liverpool that grossly overreflects reality. I'm not saying Brendan has done a good job. He has made quite a few strange decisions at times. And I won't be surprised if was sacked. But don't expect another manager to come in and wave his magic wand.


He should just keep his mouth shut and get on with the job. Stop spinning and flipping. Only when the team's achieved something, then he can do his thing.
Embarrassing to think what he said about Spurs spending last April.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser
You have a go at who we've bought yet a lot of them could still end being very good players in the future.

Moreno - made a lot of mistakes but got a lot of potential
Can - inconsistent, got potential
Markovic - needs time to adapt, got potential
Manquillo - probably not good enough, but only a loan deal
Lovren - disappointing, give him one more season
Lallana - played well when not injured
Balotelli - hasn't fit in at Liverpool, but got obvious talents

Surely you don't expect young players who have never played in England before to be revelations straight away?


I have said that I dont think the signings are bad. They have taken an incredible amount of time to settle though, and that can't be overlooked. For all the best intentions of settling players, the truth is there to see. Balotelli as a second striker was good this season, but it happened like twice. Lambert will be sold for about the same as bought. Lallana and Markovic I think are very talented players, but neither has flourished. I think you're jumping on me saying we overspent on Lovren and Lallana, when it is clear that in the short-term, they've justified barely half of that outlay. Read my opening gambit about Can and Moreno.

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Originally Posted By: RedScouser
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions
Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Originally Posted By: RedsforChampions

I think Frank De Boer would do a better job within the parameters and there could be others.


Don't know why De Boer's name keeps getting mentioned, Ajax finished 17 points behind PSV in a poor Dutch league!


He also won 4 Dutch leagues before this season while Rodgers has won nothing.


Rodgers won a play-off final which is probably more important than a Dutch league title. Certainly in a financial sense.


Yeah sure, maybe the winner of the play off should qualify for CL.

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