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Remind me where Kenny finished?
8th and back in to Europe via winning the League Cup Is 8th better than 7th then? In the league only, definitely, but nowhere near the cups performance. So if you look at the whole season, KD was way ahead of what Rodgers did, in a season where Gerrard missed half of the season injured and hardly fit for most part of the 2nd half. Suarez also missed 10 games in the league after the Evra and finger showing problem.
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Remind me where Kenny finished?
8th and back in to Europe via winning the League Cup Is 8th better than 7th then? In the league only, definitely, but nowhere near the cups performance. So if you look at the whole season, KD was way ahead of what Rodgers did, in a season where Gerrard missed half of the season injured and hardly fit for most part of the 2nd half. Suarez also missed 10 games in the league after the Evra and finger showing problem. We got to 2 semi finals so only one game away from where Kenny got so it isn't drastically worse and in no way was he way ahead of this season. And lets not forget, Suarez has gone, Sturridge has been off most of the season.
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I'd say the team looks to have regressed but in terms of league position we've gone forward. Kenny left us in 8th and now we're up to the dizzy heights of 5th (assuming we stay there).
Hardly a great improvement or anything to shout about but all things considered, where else can we expect to be with who is in front of us? Yes you can bang on about missed opportunities with Utd having a couple of bad seasons but the way they're going to spend, we would never have stayed above them anyway. Maybe not but doesn't that just make it even more important to have taken the pretty easy opportunity to finish 4th when we had it??
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Yes, without question. The only players of any quality in that side for me are Sturridge and Lucas who are both always just returning to form and then get injured again or worst still out for heavens knows how long in young Flanno.
The rest, bar Sktrtel give or take are hugely overpriced mediocrity.
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We got to 2 semi finals so only one game away from where Kenny got so it isn't drastically worse and in no way was he way ahead of this season. And lets not forget, Suarez has gone, Sturridge has been off most of the season.
That's 3 more games won in the cups. But anyway, do you really think that finishing 3 places higher in the league is a good 'return' on more than 200m investment in players?
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I'd say the team looks to have regressed but in terms of league position we've gone forward. Kenny left us in 8th and now we're up to the dizzy heights of 5th (assuming we stay there).
Hardly a great improvement or anything to shout about but all things considered, where else can we expect to be with who is in front of us? Yes you can bang on about missed opportunities with Utd having a couple of bad seasons but the way they're going to spend, we would never have stayed above them anyway. Maybe not but doesn't that just make it even more important to have taken the pretty easy opportunity to finish 4th when we had it?? Yes we should've taken the opportunity.
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We got to 2 semi finals so only one game away from where Kenny got so it isn't drastically worse and in no way was he way ahead of this season. And lets not forget, Suarez has gone, Sturridge has been off most of the season.
That's 3 more games won in the cups. But anyway, do you really think that finishing 3 places higher in the league is a good 'return' on more than 200m investment in players? No I don't think it's a good return. But the question was 'have we regressed?' and in terms of league position no we haven't. Cup form can never really be counted as anything can happen on any given day, Bradford at Chelsea for example. But as I've said, in terms of player for player we have regressed slightly.
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The whole club has regressed the team is a symptom FSG are the owners ideally I would like them to sell up but if that is not possible they need to start taking responsibility for this great club
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We got to 2 semi finals so only one game away from where Kenny got so it isn't drastically worse and in no way was he way ahead of this season. And lets not forget, Suarez has gone, Sturridge has been off most of the season.
That's 3 more games won in the cups. But anyway, do you really think that finishing 3 places higher in the league is a good 'return' on more than 200m investment in players? No I don't think it's a good return. But the question was 'have we regressed?' and in terms of league position no we haven't. Cup form can never really be counted as anything can happen on any given day, Bradford at Chelsea for example. But as I've said, in terms of player for player we have regressed slightly. Well it's impossible to argue with facts and we have clearly progressed in terms of league position, and I think his 200 million for 3 league positions is slightly misleading as other teams have spent money as well. I think the only thing that really matters is if he's getting most of his transfers right to put us in a position to compete for 4th, and with a 2nd highest spend in the league he drastically got it wrong and fell 3 places.
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We got to 2 semi finals so only one game away from where Kenny got so it isn't drastically worse and in no way was he way ahead of this season. And lets not forget, Suarez has gone, Sturridge has been off most of the season.
That's 3 more games won in the cups. But anyway, do you really think that finishing 3 places higher in the league is a good 'return' on more than 200m investment in players? No I don't think it's a good return. But the question was 'have we regressed?' and in terms of league position no we haven't. Cup form can never really be counted as anything can happen on any given day, Bradford at Chelsea for example. But as I've said, in terms of player for player we have regressed slightly. We agree then that we have regressed in terms of player for player and after spending 200m, we shouldn't have.
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