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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
You should never want your own team to lose for any reason. These last games are all pretty meaningless but I still want us to win them all. Rodgers will go soon enough if he deserves to.


I agree mainly Wilkio lad, but I don't want to see us in the europa cup nonsense shyte cup wotsit next season, so........

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Gotta look at the bigger picture.

If losing all the remaining games guaranteed Rodgers departure I wouldn't give it a second thought. Hope we lose 4 on the trot.


Wouldn't you rather we won all 4 games, to give us a chance of getting in the CL?? Strange attitude you have.....



What you are saying, is that you are more interested in getting the manager out than the club being successful!


We are 7 points behind 4th with 4 games to go... our form and the lack lustre performances on display, coupled with and away match at Chelsea tells me that boat has sailed.

I am locking myself in a darkened lead lined room for that one.
I shall be wearing pink ear muffs for 90 mins too.
I fear a total embarrassing and gross mullering. mad

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
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Your first point is not true. I said he deserves credit. Your OPINION, is that I give him too much... So that isn't true I'm afraid.

If it was a FACT, there wouldn't be debate. He was a huge part of our form, of course he was. He was arguably the third best player in the world. It, however, is only irrefutable to someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of.

Your "balanced argument" is subjective. You pick one piece of trivia to back your point, when there are lots you could pick from that undermine it. It is okay having an opinion. Masking it in "objectivity" is distrustful. You then use words like "unarguable" and "USE CAPS" to denegrade my point, which in fact just proves your post is about subjectivity and completely contradicts itself. I have an opinion I'm willing to share. TRYING, to dismiss mine with meaningless hypocritical repost is so more obviously different to mine and my clear intent, but thanks for the rant, it has been amusing to read.

I said it doesn't mean he is to blame (about players giving up). Of course there is an apportion of blame. If you want to critique my words with a toothcomb so be it. Here is me doing it back to you, with respect.

Too much hypocrisy on both sides it seems, but hey, you just want to lament me. Well done. You're failing in my eyes, but I am just an opinion.

Your OPINION, is that his signings have been 1 in 20. Again. Undermine my opinion by voicing yours is delusional and raises a question of really why you want to pick my argument apart. Were you wanting me to return the favour?

You might want to sack him, I don't. My point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously.


My first point is completely true. You've taken one item I've said and ignored the rest that proved your post was completely hypocritical because you had no argument against it. Very transparent I'm afraid.

There is no debate, it is a fact, Suarez is the no.1 reason we finished 1st last year. That's why without him and 120 million to spend we will finish between 5th and 8th. The fact that you try to reference some fake debate that doesn't exist for anyone but yourself is the sorry tactics of "someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of" to use the phrase you so helpfully and incorrectly threw at me, thank you for that.

My "balanced" argument was in parts subjective thats why I said "I'm trying to construct a balanced argument", and nowhere did I mask subjectivity with objectivity. There were facts AND opinions in the post, I'm sorry you got upset by the caps but it appears you needed your hand held through how a post can contain facts as well as opinion so maybe I should have used more. Perhaps a colour system next time? You attack my use of 'one piece of trivia' when I deliberately used it (and said as much) to demonstrate how your trivia was meaningless which you then go on to say yourself(!) making your attack an incredibly "amusing to read" attack that betrayed yourself.

It's clear you got upset thinking I was trying to dismiss you, but I wasn't at all, I directly addressed you, you're entitled to your opinion on Rodgers staying or leaving and I never said it was a FACT that he should go. So that's either a mistake or (another) lie on your part as you got upset at not having something substantial to back yourself up.

"Critiquing my words with a fine tooth comb" is when my eyes started to roll, for someone so well spoken that's an incredibly school boy error to turn to such a phrase when someone challenges a point you made. I challenged the actual point you made not the wording, if you later realise you misrepresented you position that's your error (another one).

His failure in the transfer market is what I called irrefutable, the evidence is the failure of nearly every one of his signings thus far. The 1/2 (that's one OR two, though here I can see where your confusion arose) in 10 I didn't call a fact, it is my "OPINION" but again I'm surprised you need your hand held through that. And again, you clearly got upset by me challenging your points but I wasn't picking your argument apart so your clear emotional reaction seems odd to me, and you I see you have tried to do that to me but you've hopelessly failed whilst making very rudimentary errors that perhaps if you let yourself cool off you wouldn't have done.

Your point about hypocrisy was that people who criticise Rodgers don't give him credit for last season. I gave him credit and blame for the respective seasons directly and very obviously so in saying "my point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously" has no foundation and you've once again (rather comicly, again) hung yourself with your own petard. My post to you was to demonstrate your hypocrisy in not apportioning blame to Rodgers but giving him enormous credit that the evidence suggests might have been to much, and in your quite emotional rant you didn't manage to provide anything to disprove that. Thus ranting and raving without addressing the post at all really.


DE stroyed!

But on Rodgers again, I would give him another season just because I think Fsg gave him the tactic of buying lots of players and the committee team didn't help in getting the players e wanted like Sanchez

As for the other discussion on wishing us to lose, I can't ever do that myself, but at the same time I can understand wanting short term pain for long term gain if you genuinely believe in your soul that Rodgers is the wrong man for Liverpool, especially when we have nothing to play for. The only time I've felt like that is under Hodgson.

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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato

Your first point is not true. I said he deserves credit. Your OPINION, is that I give him too much... So that isn't true I'm afraid.

If it was a FACT, there wouldn't be debate. He was a huge part of our form, of course he was. He was arguably the third best player in the world. It, however, is only irrefutable to someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of.

Your "balanced argument" is subjective. You pick one piece of trivia to back your point, when there are lots you could pick from that undermine it. It is okay having an opinion. Masking it in "objectivity" is distrustful. You then use words like "unarguable" and "USE CAPS" to denegrade my point, which in fact just proves your post is about subjectivity and completely contradicts itself. I have an opinion I'm willing to share. TRYING, to dismiss mine with meaningless hypocritical repost is so more obviously different to mine and my clear intent, but thanks for the rant, it has been amusing to read.

I said it doesn't mean he is to blame (about players giving up). Of course there is an apportion of blame. If you want to critique my words with a toothcomb so be it. Here is me doing it back to you, with respect.

Too much hypocrisy on both sides it seems, but hey, you just want to lament me. Well done. You're failing in my eyes, but I am just an opinion.

Your OPINION, is that his signings have been 1 in 20. Again. Undermine my opinion by voicing yours is delusional and raises a question of really why you want to pick my argument apart. Were you wanting me to return the favour?

You might want to sack him, I don't. My point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously.


My first point is completely true. You've taken one item I've said and ignored the rest that proved your post was completely hypocritical because you had no argument against it. Very transparent I'm afraid.

There is no debate, it is a fact, Suarez is the no.1 reason we finished 1st last year. That's why without him and 120 million to spend we will finish between 5th and 8th. The fact that you try to reference some fake debate that doesn't exist for anyone but yourself is the sorry tactics of "someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of" to use the phrase you so helpfully and incorrectly threw at me, thank you for that.

My "balanced" argument was in parts subjective thats why I said "I'm trying to construct a balanced argument", and nowhere did I mask subjectivity with objectivity. There were facts AND opinions in the post, I'm sorry you got upset by the caps but it appears you needed your hand held through how a post can contain facts as well as opinion so maybe I should have used more. Perhaps a colour system next time? You attack my use of 'one piece of trivia' when I deliberately used it (and said as much) to demonstrate how your trivia was meaningless which you then go on to say yourself(!) making your attack an incredibly "amusing to read" attack that betrayed yourself.

It's clear you got upset thinking I was trying to dismiss you, but I wasn't at all, I directly addressed you, you're entitled to your opinion on Rodgers staying or leaving and I never said it was a FACT that he should go. So that's either a mistake or (another) lie on your part as you got upset at not having something substantial to back yourself up.

"Critiquing my words with a fine tooth comb" is when my eyes started to roll, for someone so well spoken that's an incredibly school boy error to turn to such a phrase when someone challenges a point you made. I challenged the actual point you made not the wording, if you later realise you misrepresented you position that's your error (another one).

His failure in the transfer market is what I called irrefutable, the evidence is the failure of nearly every one of his signings thus far. The 1/2 (that's one OR two, though here I can see where your confusion arose) in 10 I didn't call a fact, it is my "OPINION" but again I'm surprised you need your hand held through that. And again, you clearly got upset by me challenging your points but I wasn't picking your argument apart so your clear emotional reaction seems odd to me, and you I see you have tried to do that to me but you've hopelessly failed whilst making very rudimentary errors that perhaps if you let yourself cool off you wouldn't have done.

Your point about hypocrisy was that people who criticise Rodgers don't give him credit for last season. I gave him credit and blame for the respective seasons directly and very obviously so in saying "my point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously" has no foundation and you've once again (rather comicly, again) hung yourself with your own petard. My post to you was to demonstrate your hypocrisy in not apportioning blame to Rodgers but giving him enormous credit that the evidence suggests might have been to much, and in your quite emotional rant you didn't manage to provide anything to disprove that. Thus ranting and raving without addressing the post at all really.


Your demeaning attitude is actually quite amusing, I'll give you that. The rest is blathering nonsense. Don't expect much else from you in future. But thanks for wasting your time. It's actually quite reassuring.

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Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato
Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: jjmelling/Stato

Your first point is not true. I said he deserves credit. Your OPINION, is that I give him too much... So that isn't true I'm afraid.

If it was a FACT, there wouldn't be debate. He was a huge part of our form, of course he was. He was arguably the third best player in the world. It, however, is only irrefutable to someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of.

Your "balanced argument" is subjective. You pick one piece of trivia to back your point, when there are lots you could pick from that undermine it. It is okay having an opinion. Masking it in "objectivity" is distrustful. You then use words like "unarguable" and "USE CAPS" to denegrade my point, which in fact just proves your post is about subjectivity and completely contradicts itself. I have an opinion I'm willing to share. TRYING, to dismiss mine with meaningless hypocritical repost is so more obviously different to mine and my clear intent, but thanks for the rant, it has been amusing to read.

I said it doesn't mean he is to blame (about players giving up). Of course there is an apportion of blame. If you want to critique my words with a toothcomb so be it. Here is me doing it back to you, with respect.

Too much hypocrisy on both sides it seems, but hey, you just want to lament me. Well done. You're failing in my eyes, but I am just an opinion.

Your OPINION, is that his signings have been 1 in 20. Again. Undermine my opinion by voicing yours is delusional and raises a question of really why you want to pick my argument apart. Were you wanting me to return the favour?

You might want to sack him, I don't. My point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously.


My first point is completely true. You've taken one item I've said and ignored the rest that proved your post was completely hypocritical because you had no argument against it. Very transparent I'm afraid.

There is no debate, it is a fact, Suarez is the no.1 reason we finished 1st last year. That's why without him and 120 million to spend we will finish between 5th and 8th. The fact that you try to reference some fake debate that doesn't exist for anyone but yourself is the sorry tactics of "someone desperate to stand by an opinion. Which is hypoticrital in itself when that is what you accuse me of" to use the phrase you so helpfully and incorrectly threw at me, thank you for that.

My "balanced" argument was in parts subjective thats why I said "I'm trying to construct a balanced argument", and nowhere did I mask subjectivity with objectivity. There were facts AND opinions in the post, I'm sorry you got upset by the caps but it appears you needed your hand held through how a post can contain facts as well as opinion so maybe I should have used more. Perhaps a colour system next time? You attack my use of 'one piece of trivia' when I deliberately used it (and said as much) to demonstrate how your trivia was meaningless which you then go on to say yourself(!) making your attack an incredibly "amusing to read" attack that betrayed yourself.

It's clear you got upset thinking I was trying to dismiss you, but I wasn't at all, I directly addressed you, you're entitled to your opinion on Rodgers staying or leaving and I never said it was a FACT that he should go. So that's either a mistake or (another) lie on your part as you got upset at not having something substantial to back yourself up.

"Critiquing my words with a fine tooth comb" is when my eyes started to roll, for someone so well spoken that's an incredibly school boy error to turn to such a phrase when someone challenges a point you made. I challenged the actual point you made not the wording, if you later realise you misrepresented you position that's your error (another one).

His failure in the transfer market is what I called irrefutable, the evidence is the failure of nearly every one of his signings thus far. The 1/2 (that's one OR two, though here I can see where your confusion arose) in 10 I didn't call a fact, it is my "OPINION" but again I'm surprised you need your hand held through that. And again, you clearly got upset by me challenging your points but I wasn't picking your argument apart so your clear emotional reaction seems odd to me, and you I see you have tried to do that to me but you've hopelessly failed whilst making very rudimentary errors that perhaps if you let yourself cool off you wouldn't have done.

Your point about hypocrisy was that people who criticise Rodgers don't give him credit for last season. I gave him credit and blame for the respective seasons directly and very obviously so in saying "my point about hypocrisy bears great truth in most of what you say, so thanks for backing up my argument subconsciously" has no foundation and you've once again (rather comicly, again) hung yourself with your own petard. My post to you was to demonstrate your hypocrisy in not apportioning blame to Rodgers but giving him enormous credit that the evidence suggests might have been to much, and in your quite emotional rant you didn't manage to provide anything to disprove that. Thus ranting and raving without addressing the post at all really.


Your demeaning attitude is actually quite amusing, I'll give you that. The rest is blathering nonsense. Don't expect much else from you in future. But thanks for wasting your time. It's actually quite reassuring.


Well looks like me and at least one other person thinks that of you. Tells you a lot doesn't it...you keep adding fuel to the fire that burns yourself. Thank you for making that easy for me, and proving you had nothing with your last comment which addressed none of the challenges as you had answers for nothing...again. And you're right, that's more than amusing, that's hilarious.

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Meaningless game, I don't care and certainly won't disrupt a good nights sleep to watch that garbage.


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