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Originally Posted By: paul66
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You seriously think Mignolet is a better keeper than DeGea?

Better attackers, we have the Glass Man, Mario, Borini and Lambert.
13 goals in all competitons this year.
Rooney, Van Persie, Falcao and Di Maria have 32 goals between them.

We have more young players that doesn't mean they are good.


Only Rooney is any good from the ones you have listed, and he's over rated. I was thinking more along the lines of chance creators as well as finishers.

Sterling, Coutinho, Ibe are a hell of a lot better than Di maria/januzaj, Young and Mata


sorry mate but your last couple of posts are up there with the stupidest I have ever read on a football forum

Migs better than De Gea christ!!! I hope no utd fans are reading this as they will wet themselves


The best keepers keep the most clean sheets. Mignolet has more than De Gea. We'll leave it at that.

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: paul66
Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
You seriously think Mignolet is a better keeper than DeGea?

Better attackers, we have the Glass Man, Mario, Borini and Lambert.
13 goals in all competitons this year.
Rooney, Van Persie, Falcao and Di Maria have 32 goals between them.

We have more young players that doesn't mean they are good.


Only Rooney is any good from the ones you have listed, and he's over rated. I was thinking more along the lines of chance creators as well as finishers.

Sterling, Coutinho, Ibe are a hell of a lot better than Di maria/januzaj, Young and Mata


sorry mate but your last couple of posts are up there with the stupidest I have ever read on a football forum

Migs better than De Gea christ!!! I hope no utd fans are reading this as they will wet themselves


The best keepers keep the most clean sheets. Mignolet has more than De Gea. We'll leave it at that.


Absolute rubbish and you know it. Defences keep the most clean sheets, not just goal keepers.

DeGea has been excellent this season and I don't think anyone agrees with your view that Migs is the better keeper.

What's that saying, there are lies, damned lies and stastics.

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
Originally Posted By: paul66
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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
You seriously think Mignolet is a better keeper than DeGea?

Better attackers, we have the Glass Man, Mario, Borini and Lambert.
13 goals in all competitons this year.
Rooney, Van Persie, Falcao and Di Maria have 32 goals between them.

We have more young players that doesn't mean they are good.


Only Rooney is any good from the ones you have listed, and he's over rated. I was thinking more along the lines of chance creators as well as finishers.

Sterling, Coutinho, Ibe are a hell of a lot better than Di maria/januzaj, Young and Mata


sorry mate but your last couple of posts are up there with the stupidest I have ever read on a football forum

Migs better than De Gea christ!!! I hope no utd fans are reading this as they will wet themselves


The best keepers keep the most clean sheets. Mignolet has more than De Gea. We'll leave it at that.


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Don't be so naive.

They can afford the wages of a decorated manager and a squad full of superstars because of the last 25 years of winning stuff basically every year. CL money every year etc etc etc. It took them a year or so to get going and yes, now they are reaping the rewards of buying ready-made stars, but that's what you get when your revenue exceeds £360m, [b]more than £150m more than us/b]

Their match day revenue is 6 times ours, they receive 3 times as much in broadcasting, 4 times as much in commercial and 4 times as much in branding.

THAT is why they can afford to buy better than us.

We are not a wealthy club, but if you keep an eye on the news, you will see our terrible, stingy, good-for-nothing owners have been working hard over the last few years to narrow the gap. Sponsorship/ partnerships with Dunkin Donuts, Subway, Nivea, Garuda International, Standard Chartered have all been made since FSG came in, they are clearly trying to make LFC more profitable, but we will still be way off UTD.

Anyone with a shred of common sense would see that we are not the same club financially as UTD (you need A LOT of money if you want a team full of good players) and probably never will be.

Get the F over it.


Good post. But people don't like cold hard facts


No, but they seem quite happy with 5th place.


I don't think anyone is actually happy with 5th place, obviously. Maybe the people you are referring to here have thought about it for more than 2 seconds before responding and realise we are in the place we deserve. If you are all really honest with yourselves, you'll admit that we are the 5th best team in the PL over a season. Yes we will beat those above us on occasion, but Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Utd all have better teams than us and over 38 games, that is what counts, not the head to head games. 5th is where we belong atm and yes, it sucks.

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Some of these posts are amazing (in the sense not from any sane views)

I take it darcus is a stats man and therefore stats and only stats tell the truth.

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Originally Posted By: harleybrown
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Don't be so naive.

They can afford the wages of a decorated manager and a squad full of superstars because of the last 25 years of winning stuff basically every year. CL money every year etc etc etc. It took them a year or so to get going and yes, now they are reaping the rewards of buying ready-made stars, but that's what you get when your revenue exceeds £360m, [b]more than £150m more than us/b]

Their match day revenue is 6 times ours, they receive 3 times as much in broadcasting, 4 times as much in commercial and 4 times as much in branding.

THAT is why they can afford to buy better than us.

We are not a wealthy club, but if you keep an eye on the news, you will see our terrible, stingy, good-for-nothing owners have been working hard over the last few years to narrow the gap. Sponsorship/ partnerships with Dunkin Donuts, Subway, Nivea, Garuda International, Standard Chartered have all been made since FSG came in, they are clearly trying to make LFC more profitable, but we will still be way off UTD.

Anyone with a shred of common sense would see that we are not the same club financially as UTD (you need A LOT of money if you want a team full of good players) and probably never will be.

Get the F over it.


Good post. But people don't like cold hard facts


No, but they seem quite happy with 5th place.


I don't think anyone is actually happy with 5th place, obviously. Maybe the people you are referring to here have thought about it for more than 2 seconds before responding and realise we are in the place we deserve. If you are all really honest with yourselves, you'll admit that we are the 5th best team in the PL over a season. Yes we will beat those above us on occasion, but Chelsea, Arsenal, City and Utd all have better teams than us and over 38 games, that is what counts, not the head to head games. 5th is where we belong atm and yes, it sucks.


So how did we manage 2nd last season then?

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We got some lucky breaks and we had a truly world class player in our side

I think this season the squad has regressed and the manager has struggled balancing all the different competitions

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Originally Posted By: cjkent
Some of these posts are amazing (in the sense not from any sane views)

I take it darcus is a stats man and therefore stats and only stats tell the truth.



Stats play a large part, but don't pain the full picture - i admit that and always have done. As I have said before, unless you watch all Utd's games as well as all of Liverpool's then it's very hard to say who is the best - which is why I fall back on statistical information.

People are singing De Gea's praises (and quite rightly) because of a 2-3 month purple patch of form starting just before xmas. No one was calling him world-class before that period and the plaudits have died won now that he has only kept clean sheets in 3 of his last 12 matches.

Incidentally, during that excellent period for de gea, Mignolet kept more clean sheets and let in fewer goals.

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Originally Posted By: Darcus
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Some of these posts are amazing (in the sense not from any sane views)

I take it darcus is a stats man and therefore stats and only stats tell the truth.



Stats play a large part, but don't pain the full picture - i admit that and always have done. As I have said before, unless you watch all Utd's games as well as all of Liverpool's then it's very hard to say who is the best - which is why I fall back on statistical information.

People are singing De Gea's praises (and quite rightly) because of a 2-3 month purple patch of form starting just before xmas. No one was calling him world-class before that period and the plaudits have died won now that he has only kept clean sheets in 3 of his last 12 matches.

Incidentally, during that excellent period for de gea, Mignolet kept more clean sheets and let in fewer goals.


Actually it's very easy to say who is the best.

At the start of the season Mingolet was like a keystone kop.
He was dropped because he was having a nightmare.

During the same period DeGea was excellent, saving United several points and producing brilliant displays against Arsenal and ourselves.
During that period he also won united's player of the month for October and November

He has made less saves since then solely because United have improved and he is being worked as much. .

Mingolet has improved since he returned to the team but he is nowhere near the same quality as DeGea.

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I think a lot of people are underestimating how descent Mign is post wobble.


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