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Originally Posted By: cjkent
Plus anyone that thinks FSG happy with 5th most be watching the pigs fly by there window.

They want champions league and the money end of and now we are unlikely to get it, I image they are pretty disappointed with this season like most fans


Understatement of the century. Word is they are [oops] fuming.

We're going to see a lot of changes in the summer.

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Well they would say they gave over 100 million to spend which was more than anyone bar utd


But we were quite clearly restricted in how that was spent or why would we not have a couple of real quality players from it with some to fill the squad. And it's not all down to Rodgers either. Even he's not stupid enough to replace Suarez with Mario!


I think Rodgers was given a budget (as any other manager), however, I think he chose quantity as he though he was getting enough quality and thought he would go far in CL. He also like to have 'multipurpose' players so that he can play them in different positions, he always did that. I cannot see how FSG would force him to buy any player or tell him how big the squad should be, however, they will surely give a budget and maybe the average price per age groups too (for sell on values). We made a huge bid (about 40m) for Sanchez, so we do have a high limit for the right player.

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Originally Posted By: cjkent
Well they would say they gave over 100 million to spend which was more than anyone bar utd


But we were quite clearly restricted in how that was spent or why would we not have a couple of real quality players from it with some to fill the squad. And it's not all down to Rodgers either. Even he's not stupid enough to replace Suarez with Mario!


I think Rodgers was given a budget (as any other manager), however, I think he chose quantity as he though he was getting enough quality and thought he would go far in CL. He also like to have 'multipurpose' players so that he can play them in different positions, he always did that. I cannot see how FSG would force him to buy any player or tell him how big the squad should be, however, they will surely give a budget and maybe the average price per age groups too (for sell on values). We made a huge bid (about 40m) for Sanchez, so we do have a high limit for the right player.


Restrictions then. Imagine if Utd were restricted so when they bought Van Persie. They may not have won the league without him. Players should be bought for the right amount regardless of age or sell on value.

Plus can we not mention the committee as they were also heavily involved in our transfers.

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Originally Posted By: gnp-uk
Klopp replaces brodge....in the summer....


Etc etc


My guess -

Ancelotti - Man City this summer.
Simeone to replace Mourinho in a couple of years.
Klopp to replace Wenger when he retires.
Guardiola to replace Van Gaal in a couple of years.

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Originally Posted By: gnp-uk
Klopp replaces brodge....in the summer....


Etc etc


My guess -

Ancelotti - Man City this summer.
Simeone to replace Mourinho in a couple of years.
Klopp to replace Wenger when he retires.
Guardiola to replace Van Gaal in a couple of years.


And Rafa to replace Rodgers (or Allardyce)?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975


And Rafa to replace Rodgers (or Allardyce)?


Apparently WHU want Moyes, but talks haven't really advanced, as he hasn't long been at Sociedad. Rafa apparently refused West Ham's first offer and they have made another offer. Bilic is also in the running. Most of their fans believe that Rafa is in the bag though.

As far as we're concerned, I have no idea.

Will be interesting to see what happens tonight, if we beat/lose against Blackburn and if Napoli beat/lose in the Coppa Italia.

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Our results on the pitch have not been good enough.

We spent roughly £100m over the summer and we are worse than ever.

The buck stops with the manager and his time is up.

Who replaces him, no idea, but we need a change and as always it's easier to get rid of one under achieving manager than 25 under achieving players.

I know a man who has fifteen greyhounds and when they don’t win he sacks the walker, he’s sacked so many walkers that now he’s walking them himself and he still hasn’t had a single winner! What should that tell us Shaggydog? I’m assuming you should know!!

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
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Originally Posted By: cjkent
Well they would say they gave over 100 million to spend which was more than anyone bar utd


But we were quite clearly restricted in how that was spent or why would we not have a couple of real quality players from it with some to fill the squad. And it's not all down to Rodgers either. Even he's not stupid enough to replace Suarez with Mario!


I think Rodgers was given a budget (as any other manager), however, I think he chose quantity as he though he was getting enough quality and thought he would go far in CL. He also like to have 'multipurpose' players so that he can play them in different positions, he always did that. I cannot see how FSG would force him to buy any player or tell him how big the squad should be, however, they will surely give a budget and maybe the average price per age groups too (for sell on values). We made a huge bid (about 40m) for Sanchez, so we do have a high limit for the right player.


Restrictions then. Imagine if Utd were restricted so when they bought Van Persie. They may not have won the league without him. Players should be bought for the right amount regardless of age or sell on value.

Plus can we not mention the committee as they were also heavily involved in our transfers.


I also don't like sell on values as a criteria, but a lot of teams use it specially those not having enough revenues, Arsenal always had more such restrictions but Wenger managed to qualify for CL regularly, in fact his average net spend and wages since they started their new stadium dwarf a lot of clubs, including us.

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Originally Posted By: cjkent
Plus anyone that thinks FSG happy with 5th most be watching the pigs fly by there window.

They want champions league and the money end of and now we are unlikely to get it, I image they are pretty disappointed with this season like most fans


The last I heard, CL football was worth £35-£40m per year. It would cost us a hell of lot more than that in terms of transfer fees and wages to get regular CL football, so is it worth it?

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Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
Our results on the pitch have not been good enough.

We spent roughly £100m over the summer and we are worse than ever.

The buck stops with the manager and his time is up.

Who replaces him, no idea, but we need a change and as always it's easier to get rid of one under achieving manager than 25 under achieving players.

I know a man who has fifteen greyhounds and when they don’t win he sacks the walker, he’s sacked so many walkers that now he’s walking them himself and he still hasn’t had a single winner! What should that tell us Shaggydog? I’m assuming you should know!!


Don't buy 3 legged greyhounds.

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