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Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....
Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind. I don't think that anybody is overpaid over the longer term, they just get what they deserve in the market except those who do things illegally of course.
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Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....
Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind. I don't think that anybody is overpaid over the longer term, they just get what they deserve in the market except those who do things illegally of course. Are you serious? You're saying that bankers (top level i'm talking about not your normal employees) are getting paid what they deserve? They create nothing but push numbers around. When things go well, they get the benefits and when things go badly the rest of the world gets the rod up the arse... And it's all mostly legal... Playing with a stacked deck doesn't mean you deserve it when you're winning...
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Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....
Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind. I don't think that anybody is overpaid over the longer term, they just get what they deserve in the market except those who do things illegally of course. Remember that whole ALS bucket challenge? Go and research what the directors of that organisation are on, then come back to me.
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Without teachers we wouldn't be having this very discussion as the lot of us would be illiterate. No scientists, no doctors, no engineers.....
Think about it for a second. I am not a teacher or in the education field, but saying they have a cushy overpaid job is to me almost non sensical. I know not everyone agrees. Just my view. They are a vital cog for the advancement of humankind. I don't think that anybody is overpaid over the longer term, they just get what they deserve in the market except those who do things illegally of course. Are you serious? You're saying that bankers (top level i'm talking about not your normal employees) are getting paid what they deserve? They create nothing but push numbers around. When things go well, they get the benefits and when things go badly the rest of the world gets the rod up the arse... And it's all mostly legal... Playing with a stacked deck doesn't mean you deserve it when you're winning... So why is there a big demand for top bankers then? Those who couldn't get a good salary in Europe went to Asia. The communist did their revolution in 1917 and it didn't work out except maybe door Cuba.
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Darcus, teachers dont finish at 3.30, they finish at 5. They also have to take their work home with them. It isnt just marking and stuff of kids work, they also have to fulfil all kinds of lesson plans, meet targets and deadlines and also justify their methods via offstead documentation as well all other kinds of documentation to make sure they are following the right regulations. Most spend maybe one day of the week off as on their weekend they have to allocate one of those days going through paper work. Actually have a conversation with a teacher sometime and ask them whether its a cushy job or not, maybe if you listen and found out about all the work they have to you wouldnt be as dismissive. Sorry, but you're talking a load of old nonsense. Everyone works outside of their set hours, but teachers get SOOOOOO much time off....it's utterly obscene and it makes me want to punch each and everyone of them in the back of the head when they have the nerve to go on strike!!! 9am until 3.30 (less breaks) = a 5hr day. Even if they did 2 hours of 'marking' and 'lesson plans' they would still be working less than most people. The Uk average is 23 days holiday plus bank holidays. In 2015 teachers will work 191 days from a possible 253 meaning they get almost 3 times as much holiday as anyone else. Disgusting. I know a couple of teachers. "Officially", they say that they work hard. I don't doubt that. My problem is that they only work hard for half the time that most other people do. ...after a few drinkies though they happily admit to having an easy life and even gloat about it amongst themselves. If I was young again and knowing what I know now, I would 100% train to become a teacher. So...please do not give me any more of your ludicrous, blinkered support for them. I don't want to hear it.
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i think you are failing to add up all the extra hours they have to do after school marking homework and the likes of
it is not a picnic in the park as you suggest LOL, that old boll0cks! Everyone I know works outside of their normal hours. The difference is, the rest of us don't finish at 3.30, have every weekend off, christmas off, easter off, half terms off, the whole friggin summer off....plus 'inset' days off!!!! It's the cushiest 'full time' job on earth. You not get onto a PGCE then mate?  When I left school, the last thing I wanted to do was go back! As cushy as teaching is, I think I'd get bored with all the spare time on my hands so maybe it's not for me.
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As cushy as teaching is, I think I'd get bored with all the spare time on my hands so maybe it's not for me. You don't have any hobbies to fill that spare time with mate?
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personally think a £100k p/w contract would be more than good enough for a player his age. offering him any more than that would be a bad move from the club and maybe cashing in on him could be the best option.
how many potentially amazing young english players have we seen come through in this country, yet struggle to improve and for the majority, decline as their careers go on?
Jermaine Pennant, Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon, Joe Cole, Ashley Young, Francis Jeffers, Kieron Dyer. Maybe even Theo Walcott
Just to name a few.
I'd rather the club not be lumbered with him if he doesn't turn out to be as good as we thought he was going to be. At the moment Sterling is only held in such high regard because he is so young. When he hits 23/24 you're going to expect a lot more from him and if he's still performing the way he is at the moment, he'd be considered a flop. For him to demand such a big wage you'd expect him to have much more of an influence on the pitch. Until he's playing as well as Bale was in his last couple of season then I'd be very reluctant to offer him anything more than £100k p/w.
how can a player his age possibly need to earn that much money especially when you throw in all of the sponsorship deals on top of that. you have to ask yourself why he would turn down a deal like that knowing the full well the club would review his contract again if he continues to improve within 2 seasons.
he obviously thinks more of himself than myself and most Liverpool fans do. If someone wants to come in with £50m i'd honestly be quite happy to let him go.
don't get me wrong, he has the potential to be a world beater but in the same respect he also has the potential to become another one of England's most expensive flops. he ain't all that just yet.
Sign up or ship out You seem to be suggesting that he's worth £50m. If that's the case, name me one other £50m rated player that earns less than £150k per week..... I say that we sign him up on £150k per week to a long term contract. The new TV deal will make EPL clubs even richer over the next few years with the majority of that money being spent on players. In a couple of years time £150k per week will only buy you mediocrity so we should tie this up now. yea £50m, thats just the price tag that was being thrown around by the press when he was being linked with carlo ancelotti at real madrid. nowhere near the player that bale was when they signed him but if they wanna cough up that kind of cash i'd be happy to let him go. if this was to happen and we make fourth id be quite happy, then go sign someone like reus for slightly less and offer a £200k p/w contract to someone more proven who is more or less guaranteed to be better
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personally think a £100k p/w contract would be more than good enough for a player his age. offering him any more than that would be a bad move from the club and maybe cashing in on him could be the best option.
how many potentially amazing young english players have we seen come through in this country, yet struggle to improve and for the majority, decline as their careers go on?
Jermaine Pennant, Adam Johnson, Aaron Lennon, Joe Cole, Ashley Young, Francis Jeffers, Kieron Dyer. Maybe even Theo Walcott
Just to name a few.
I'd rather the club not be lumbered with him if he doesn't turn out to be as good as we thought he was going to be. At the moment Sterling is only held in such high regard because he is so young. When he hits 23/24 you're going to expect a lot more from him and if he's still performing the way he is at the moment, he'd be considered a flop. For him to demand such a big wage you'd expect him to have much more of an influence on the pitch. Until he's playing as well as Bale was in his last couple of season then I'd be very reluctant to offer him anything more than £100k p/w.
how can a player his age possibly need to earn that much money especially when you throw in all of the sponsorship deals on top of that. you have to ask yourself why he would turn down a deal like that knowing the full well the club would review his contract again if he continues to improve within 2 seasons.
he obviously thinks more of himself than myself and most Liverpool fans do. If someone wants to come in with £50m i'd honestly be quite happy to let him go.
don't get me wrong, he has the potential to be a world beater but in the same respect he also has the potential to become another one of England's most expensive flops. he ain't all that just yet.
Sign up or ship out You seem to be suggesting that he's worth £50m. If that's the case, name me one other £50m rated player that earns less than £150k per week..... I say that we sign him up on £150k per week to a long term contract. The new TV deal will make EPL clubs even richer over the next few years with the majority of that money being spent on players. In a couple of years time £150k per week will only buy you mediocrity so we should tie this up now. yea £50m, thats just the price tag that was being thrown around by the press when he was being linked with carlo ancelotti at real madrid. nowhere near the player that bale was when they signed him but if they wanna cough up that kind of cash i'd be happy to let him go. if this was to happen and we make fourth id be quite happy, then go sign someone like reus for slightly less and offer a £200k p/w contract to someone more proven who is more or less guaranteed to be better not a bad idea, this
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Sell the shitte..
Any offer over £25 mil and he can go and Sean wright Phillips on the bench elsewhere.... damn near hope for it.
Match winners, top defenders and world class keepers earn top wages... Sterling can look elsewhere for all I care (not just a knee jerk - never thought he was worth the money when the talks came up)
[oops] off you little rat, no time for knob heads like him...
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