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What needs to happen:
4) Hire an England manager with some tactical nous and some fecking vision. England needs to have an identity, and that identity and plan needs to be transparent and clear. England needs to have a way they play that is effective, attractive, and especially ENGLISH. Right now the only thing defines an English way of playing is running around a lot and being shitt with the ball. What would be an English way of playing then? Instead of mobbing the ref after incidents they form an orderly queue to have a word? Or just walking but never running? Drinking tea while they are playing would be the stereotype and serving cucumber sandwiches
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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What needs to happen:
4) Hire an England manager with some tactical nous and some fecking vision. England needs to have an identity, and that identity and plan needs to be transparent and clear. England needs to have a way they play that is effective, attractive, and especially ENGLISH. Right now the only thing defines an English way of playing is running around a lot and being shitt with the ball. What would be an English way of playing then? Instead of mobbing the ref after incidents they form an orderly queue to have a word? Or just walking but never running? A fast paced, less technical game, dependant largely on through-balls and long-balls for te forwards to chase, with a more physical element than the spanish or italian game. That in my eyes has always been the "english game" as is put, it has always been the identity of english football, it is still prevalent in the premier league, yet the national side plays a completely different slow paced game.
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To sum up; who gives a sh!t about our ranking?! It's probably about right, in all fairness.
Club football is far too important and financially significant for people to be worrying about the international game. Only since big money has arrived have you seen players pulling out of squads with highly dubious injuries.....only to be fresh and raring to go 3 days later! That tells me that the players aren't that fussed about representing their country. And decreasing attendances tells me that the fans are more interested in their club as well. And that's fine. So maybe we should make international football an amateur sport? or get rid of it altogether? If nothing else, it would bury sept blatter! I don't agree I love international football and the 1990 semi final and 1996 semi were two if the greatest games I have ever seen. I also remember the 1966 final albeit very hazy as I was young and more clearly the 1970 World Cup. Maybe you are too young to remember but the whole country came to a standstill it surpassed anything to do with club football including even Istanbul which I was at also, I am pretty sure the Irish remember the 1990 finals with Jack chartlton also with great fondness. you used to be young  i always thought you and that coconut loving old man were born oooooooooooooooold
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FIFA is corrupt and so are the England rankings.
Remind me again how Engalnd did in the world cup?
There were 64 teams there, right?
17th is way too high.
Problem in the English game is the Premier League is located in England but it is not English. There are less and less English players participating, less and less English managers, the clubs are foreign owned and the broadcast rights are mostly through Rupert Murdoch's SKY channel.
The only thing English is the punters in the stands.
Oragnized professional coaching of kids focused on skills not brute force, small side games, not tackle and long ball, and training of English coaches in how to coach skills in 2015 not hard man style from 1965 would help.
The FA is to blame.
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Considering football is England's national game and we invented the sport and considering 55 million people live in England and 65m in the British Isles we are the fourth largest economy in the world and home to the premier league probably the biggest sporting commercial product in the globe considering all that those statistics are shocking. I am an Englishman and a proud one I support our national team but I have to agree we underperform to a ridiculous level. It has to be the fault of the FA which is failing in its primary purpose and instead just concentrating on screwing as much money as it can via the premier league almost all of which goes out of the game. I think we need nothing short of a revolution in English football diverting much of the TV money to grass roots football and the lower leagues and creating better academies like they have in France and Germany. The current model is broken in every way it's not just about the english football team but indicative of fundamental problems in the english game which is rotting from the bottom down. Will better academies produce better players though? The top clubs spend a lot on their academies but rarely produce top class players - they buy them all from other clubs. Their is only so much coaching a player can absorb - surely, the main reasons for succeeding will be natural talent? The likes of Pele, Maradona, Puska, Best, rush, Suarez, Messi, Beckenbauer, Cruyff etc didn't benefit from hi tech academies. We just need to accept that we are a small nation and therefore have a smaller pool of talent to choose from. Granted, some of them earn way in excess of their worth but that's just down to circumstance. A small country with 60m inhabitants shouldn't expect to be as good as larger countries. I don't think we have under performed. If anything, we have over performed. You usually talk a lot of sense, not on this occasion I'm afraid. What does the size of a nation have to do with it? Do China and India rank first and second? Are Germany and Italy that bigger than England? Uruguay, a nation of three million, has two world cups. Yo have to look far behind the size of the nation to explain England's failings. The whole footballing structure is faulty. Suffice to say that they have a footballing dinosaur as national team manager. I don't think that the South Americans have a any type of structure that we should be striving to achieve. There are lots of possibilities and exceptions to rules but generally speaking, a larger/developed nation should have a better chance than a smaller one. In a nutshell though, not only do I think that our players are over rated, but I don't think that they care. They get paid so much money at club level that national pride barely registers. Success to them is who has the 'blindest' motor or the stupidest/tartiest girlfriend. Wealth has made us a materialistic nation. And when things (finances) come easy then drive, determination and the will to succeed take a back seat.
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FIFA is corrupt and so are the England rankings.
Remind me again how Engalnd did in the world cup?
There were 64 teams there, right?
17th is way too high.
Problem in the English game is the Premier League is located in England but it is not English. There are less and less English players participating, less and less English managers, the clubs are foreign owned and the broadcast rights are mostly through Rupert Murdoch's SKY channel.
The only thing English is the punters in the stands.
Oragnized professional coaching of kids focused on skills not brute force, small side games, not tackle and long ball, and training of English coaches in how to coach skills in 2015 not hard man style from 1965 would help.
The FA is to blame.
Not only are the rankings obviously suspect, but the draws are obviously suspect as well, including the (now publicly laid bare) selection of world cup locations. The whole setup stinks and has lost all credibility. Even the Refereeing is highly suspect as evident in Korea. FIFA needs to be dismantled and a totally new world order for football established, I don’t believe it can be reformed, either from within or without.
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FIFA is corrupt and so are the England rankings.
Remind me again how Engalnd did in the world cup?
There were 64 teams there, right?
17th is way too high.
Problem in the English game is the Premier League is located in England but it is not English. There are less and less English players participating, less and less English managers, the clubs are foreign owned and the broadcast rights are mostly through Rupert Murdoch's SKY channel.
The only thing English is the punters in the stands.
Oragnized professional coaching of kids focused on skills not brute force, small side games, not tackle and long ball, and training of English coaches in how to coach skills in 2015 not hard man style from 1965 would help.
The FA is to blame.
Not only are the rankings obviously suspect, but the draws are obviously suspect as well, including the (now publicly laid bare) selection of world cup locations. The whole setup stinks and has lost all credibility. Even the Refereeing is highly suspect as evident in Korea. FIFA needs to be dismantled and a totally new world order for football established, I don’t believe it can be reformed, either from within or without. Agree with everything you said except the part about rankings as they are made according an established formula and they aren't really that important to be tampered with tbh.
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FIFA is corrupt and so are the England rankings.
Remind me again how Engalnd did in the world cup?
There were 64 teams there, right?
17th is way too high.
Problem in the English game is the Premier League is located in England but it is not English. There are less and less English players participating, less and less English managers, the clubs are foreign owned and the broadcast rights are mostly through Rupert Murdoch's SKY channel.
The only thing English is the punters in the stands.
Oragnized professional coaching of kids focused on skills not brute force, small side games, not tackle and long ball, and training of English coaches in how to coach skills in 2015 not hard man style from 1965 would help.
The FA is to blame.
Not only are the rankings obviously suspect, but the draws are obviously suspect as well, including the (now publicly laid bare) selection of world cup locations. The whole setup stinks and has lost all credibility. Even the Refereeing is highly suspect as evident in Korea. FIFA needs to be dismantled and a totally new world order for football established, I don’t believe it can be reformed, either from within or without. Agree with everything you said except the part about rankings as they are made according an established formula and they aren't really that important to be tampered with tbh. In that case they must be using a formula that gives very little weight to results in competitions.
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Under 23 Player
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FIFA is corrupt and so are the England rankings.
Remind me again how Engalnd did in the world cup?
There were 64 teams there, right?
17th is way too high.
Problem in the English game is the Premier League is located in England but it is not English. There are less and less English players participating, less and less English managers, the clubs are foreign owned and the broadcast rights are mostly through Rupert Murdoch's SKY channel.
The only thing English is the punters in the stands.
Oragnized professional coaching of kids focused on skills not brute force, small side games, not tackle and long ball, and training of English coaches in how to coach skills in 2015 not hard man style from 1965 would help.
The FA is to blame.
Not only are the rankings obviously suspect, but the draws are obviously suspect as well, including the (now publicly laid bare) selection of world cup locations. The whole setup stinks and has lost all credibility. Even the Refereeing is highly suspect as evident in Korea. FIFA needs to be dismantled and a totally new world order for football established, I don’t believe it can be reformed, either from within or without. Agree with everything you said except the part about rankings as they are made according an established formula and they aren't really that important to be tampered with tbh. In that case they must be using a formula that gives very little weight to results in competitions. I'm not sure what the formula is tbh, but there is definitely one.
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Of course they have a formula! and they also have a formula for selecting the location for the WC Finals! Ha, ha!
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