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Considering football is England's national game and we invented the sport and considering 55 million people live in England and 65m in the British Isles we are the fourth largest economy in the world and home to the premier league probably the biggest sporting commercial product in the globe considering all that those statistics are shocking. I am an Englishman and a proud one I support our national team but I have to agree we underperform to a ridiculous level. It has to be the fault of the FA which is failing in its primary purpose and instead just concentrating on screwing as much money as it can via the premier league almost all of which goes out of the game. I think we need nothing short of a revolution in English football diverting much of the TV money to grass roots football and the lower leagues and creating better academies like they have in France and Germany. The current model is broken in every way it's not just about the english football team but indicative of fundamental problems in the english game which is rotting from the bottom down. Various forms of Football was played by the ancients in various parts of the world from ancient China to Assyria and elsewhere, and the Scotch can lay considerable claim to the modern version. England had a considerable input into the modern rules of the game, but to claim invention rights is a bit of a stretch.
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What needs to happen:
1) Stricter homegrown rules. Players from another country shouldn't count as home grown unless they're eligible for the national team, or at least one of the 4 nations. More homegrown players need to be required.
2) Stop the English tax. The reason teams are getting foreign players in the first place is because they're cheaper.
3) Set limits on how many foreign players are allowed on the team. We want the best players in the world in the league, but when teams like City are fielding teams with only 2 English players in the squad, there is something drastically wrong. Us and Arsenal aren't so bad. Sturridge, Sterling, Flannagan, Gerrard, Ibe, Johnson, and Henderson are all English, and so are Walcott, Wilshire, Gibbs, Welbeck, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Players like Allen and Ramsey are at least British. There are still loads of players from other nations, but there is at least an English core and identity.
4) Hire an England manager with some tactical nous and some fecking vision. England needs to have an identity, and that identity and plan needs to be transparent and clear. England needs to have a way they play that is effective, attractive, and especially ENGLISH. Right now the only thing defines an English way of playing is running around a lot and being shitt with the ball.
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how the hell is romania ranked so high?
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really surprised to see turkey in 52
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They are FIFA Rankings, that's the same FIFA Sepp Blatter runs.
The rankings are based purely on who slipped him an envelope full of cash most recently.
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To sum up; who gives a sh!t about our ranking?! It's probably about right, in all fairness.
Club football is far too important and financially significant for people to be worrying about the international game. Only since big money has arrived have you seen players pulling out of squads with highly dubious injuries.....only to be fresh and raring to go 3 days later! That tells me that the players aren't that fussed about representing their country. And decreasing attendances tells me that the fans are more interested in their club as well. And that's fine. So maybe we should make international football an amateur sport? or get rid of it altogether? If nothing else, it would bury sept blatter!
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Liverpool Legend
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To sum up; who gives a sh!t about our ranking?! It's probably about right, in all fairness.
Club football is far too important and financially significant for people to be worrying about the international game. Only since big money has arrived have you seen players pulling out of squads with highly dubious injuries.....only to be fresh and raring to go 3 days later! That tells me that the players aren't that fussed about representing their country. And decreasing attendances tells me that the fans are more interested in their club as well. And that's fine. So maybe we should make international football an amateur sport? or get rid of it altogether? If nothing else, it would bury sept blatter! I don't agree I love international football and the 1990 semi final and 1996 semi were two if the greatest games I have ever seen. I also remember the 1966 final albeit very hazy as I was young and more clearly the 1970 World Cup. Maybe you are too young to remember but the whole country came to a standstill it surpassed anything to do with club football including even Istanbul which I was at also, I am pretty sure the Irish remember the 1990 finals with Jack chartlton also with great fondness.
IF YOU WANT TO BE HEARD SPEAK SOFTLY - BOB PAISLEY
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Considering football is England's national game and we invented the sport and considering 55 million people live in England and 65m in the British Isles we are the fourth largest economy in the world and home to the premier league probably the biggest sporting commercial product in the globe considering all that those statistics are shocking. I am an Englishman and a proud one I support our national team but I have to agree we underperform to a ridiculous level. It has to be the fault of the FA which is failing in its primary purpose and instead just concentrating on screwing as much money as it can via the premier league almost all of which goes out of the game. I think we need nothing short of a revolution in English football diverting much of the TV money to grass roots football and the lower leagues and creating better academies like they have in France and Germany. The current model is broken in every way it's not just about the english football team but indicative of fundamental problems in the english game which is rotting from the bottom down. Will better academies produce better players though? The top clubs spend a lot on their academies but rarely produce top class players - they buy them all from other clubs. Their is only so much coaching a player can absorb - surely, the main reasons for succeeding will be natural talent? The likes of Pele, Maradona, Puska, Best, rush, Suarez, Messi, Beckenbauer, Cruyff etc didn't benefit from hi tech academies. We just need to accept that we are a small nation and therefore have a smaller pool of talent to choose from. Granted, some of them earn way in excess of their worth but that's just down to circumstance. A small country with 60m inhabitants shouldn't expect to be as good as larger countries. I don't think we have under performed. If anything, we have over performed. You usually talk a lot of sense, not on this occasion I'm afraid. What does the size of a nation have to do with it? Do China and India rank first and second? Are Germany and Italy that bigger than England? Uruguay, a nation of three million, has two world cups. Yo have to look far behind the size of the nation to explain England's failings. The whole footballing structure is faulty. Suffice to say that they have a footballing dinosaur as national team manager.
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English players cost too much that's why clubs go looking abroad.
The ranks points are from games won, draw or lost in competitive games. Friendly games don't count that's why Brazil had a very low rank before the world cup because they played mostly friendly games for nearly 4 years.
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What needs to happen:
4) Hire an England manager with some tactical nous and some fecking vision. England needs to have an identity, and that identity and plan needs to be transparent and clear. England needs to have a way they play that is effective, attractive, and especially ENGLISH. Right now the only thing defines an English way of playing is running around a lot and being shitt with the ball. What would be an English way of playing then? Instead of mobbing the ref after incidents they form an orderly queue to have a word? Or just walking but never running?
Last edited by jammysht; 12/03/15 10:35 PM.
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