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The reason Man United are generating such revenue Vish is that they had the foresight to build a new stadium. I know you will say they redeveloped it but the point is old trafford has a big footprint anfield has not which is why we have to move. Also man united did more than build one stand. Yes match day receipts are not their main revenue but the whole package is built on that infrastructure had they never built that stadium man united would not have the sponsoshio and merchandising they do today. As for the glaziers they don't need to inject capital the job is done with us the job has not started. As you said, they redeveloped it and didn't do anything new. The whole package is built though on continued success not on the stadium size. City have significantly higher revenues than us and they have less seats, same can be said about Chelsea. Newcastle and Villa have a bigger stadiums than us but lower revenues, so your analysis is flawed. Last but no least, nobody thought that Anfield could be expanded 18 months ago, so it could probably be further developed in years to come with new building technologies and buying additional land around. Moore's said it could in the 90's. Everyone's always known it could be done but previous owners knew the new Stadium was the best thing for the club without a shadow of a doubt. These owners are interested in increasing the revenue a bit without putting too much money in, fair enough for them but that's categorically not the best outcome for the club. If the club has to finance the new stadium, then no, it's not the best outcome, we'll be insolvent before long. Moores didn't do it because of the right of having sunlight of some inhabitants whose properties had to be bought first. I thought this was well publicised.
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Stan I think you overemphasize the importance of the stadium. I'm not saying it's not important and I'd love to have an 80000 all seater, something a club of our stature and worldwide fan base should have. However, the stadium cannot be compared in importance to winning titles.
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Stan I think you overemphasize the importance of the stadium. I'm not saying it's not important and I'd love to have an 80000 all seater, something a club of our stature and worldwide fan base should have. However, the stadium cannot be compared in importance to winning titles. Totally agree. The newer and bigger the stadium the better as long as it contributes to add to the available funds for investment in the team (like at United) in order to win titles, which is the ultimate goal.
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Stan I think you overemphasize the importance of the stadium. I'm not saying it's not important and I'd love to have an 80000 all seater, something a club of our stature and worldwide fan base should have. However, the stadium cannot be compared in importance to winning titles. Totally agree. The newer and bigger the stadium the better as long as it contributes to add to the available funds for investment in the team (like at United) in order to win titles, which is the ultimate goal. They are not mutually exclusive you need to win titles be successful AND have a top stadium which is pretty much the case for all the big clubs. Neither does one come before the other all the examples I can think of United city etc have come in parallel. The fact after all this we are attaching a new stand to an outdated small stadium and that is the extent of our ambitions shows there are no plans for liverpool fc to be a big club Unfortunetly
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Stan I think you overemphasize the importance of the stadium. I'm not saying it's not important and I'd love to have an 80000 all seater, something a club of our stature and worldwide fan base should have. However, the stadium cannot be compared in importance to winning titles. Totally agree. The newer and bigger the stadium the better as long as it contributes to add to the available funds for investment in the team (like at United) in order to win titles, which is the ultimate goal. They are not mutually exclusive you need to win titles be successful AND have a top stadium which is pretty much the case for all the big clubs. Neither does one come before the other all the examples I can think of United city etc have come in parallel. The fact after all this we are attaching a new stand to an outdated small stadium and that is the extent of our ambitions shows there are no plans for liverpool fc to be a big club Unfortunetly How big is Chelsea's stadium one of the most successful clubs in the last decade?
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Stan I think you overemphasize the importance of the stadium. I'm not saying it's not important and I'd love to have an 80000 all seater, something a club of our stature and worldwide fan base should have. However, the stadium cannot be compared in importance to winning titles. Totally agree. The newer and bigger the stadium the better as long as it contributes to add to the available funds for investment in the team (like at United) in order to win titles, which is the ultimate goal. They are not mutually exclusive you need to win titles be successful AND have a top stadium which is pretty much the case for all the big clubs. Neither does one come before the other all the examples I can think of United city etc have come in parallel. The fact after all this we are attaching a new stand to an outdated small stadium and that is the extent of our ambitions shows there are no plans for liverpool fc to be a big club Unfortunetly How big is Chelsea's stadium one of the most successful clubs in the last decade? I dont think its very big, but that’s irrelevant, as I understand they plan on getting/building a new stadium shortly, which bears out Stanley’s point above, success on the infrastructural and the playing front’s tend to go hand in hand, or as he said in parallel. As I’ve said myself many times; if you want to be consistently successful, you have to compete across all fronts simultaneously. We currently are trying to compete on one front only, i.e Sponsorship/merchandising, which tells us much. if we want to hear it!
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That's very relevant actually to SP's theory. Yes of course competing on all fronts is what is required and for me, increasing the seating capacity without putting a financial burden on the club is what we need right now, an Arsenal scenario will put us years behind and we might never recover. As you know, when Arsenal started to spend on their stadium, they stopped winning trophies and were only qualifying for the CL because competition was not as strong as today. We will end up not getting CL for years and we'll have huge additional cost due to a new stadium. So unless some Sugar Daddy throw away his money to us, which doesn't look like happening soon, it's going to jeopardise the future of the club.
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