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Now anyone who has read my posts knows I'm president of the 'Rodgers is disgustingly awful at spending money' club, but some of the points made here are unfair. Benitez' net spend a season (about 20 million as I recall) could buy you a lot more than it can now, and it was at a time when there weren't quite as many teams spending crazy money on fees and wages. So the amount of money spent isn't directly comparable.

You said it yourself in the case of Mourinho, he has a MUCH better starting point, so he can sell players for big cash and doesn't need a massive overhaul, so again, a silly comparison. Especially considering that the players he bought Rodgers could never have got to liverpool because Chelsea pay bigger wages, will win things, and has one of the world's best ever managers (sorry Wilks).

Though I do not agree with the points I've referred to, there is little doubt in my mind that for all Rodgers' good points (of which there are some large ones), he is well below the required level (even an average level) at picking players to bring into the club.

Despite finishing 2nd last season and spending 115m (about 40m net), winning the league is probably beyond us, we should however have put a decent challenge and at least be 4th well above United who has a new manager who never worked in the EPL.

Our net spend was £36m. Utd's net spend was £122m (figures from a quick Google search). Gross spending we were a little short on them but you can't say we should be better than them based on that.

I agree with you though that we could've spent our money better. But for me it's not ALL Rodgers fault. FSG and their policies, committee or whatever it is need to take a fair portion of the blame. Ultimately though Rodgers will pay with his job not the committee or FSG so you may get to see who can do better with a net spend of £30m.

I'll ignore that for now

I don't really understand the argument that 'rodgers is bad at buying players'. Last season we narrowly lost out on winning the league to a team that were subsequently fined for cheating their way to the title.
This season, we had a slow start but since christmas we have been the top team in the country.

The above has been achieved using a mixture of existing players and players that Brendan has purchased. Whether you like some of his signings or not doesn't make any difference. His players and his methods have made us the best team to watch for the last 2 years, and were it not for City cheating FFP then we would be the current league champions. Not bad for a team that dalglish left in 7th place after 'investing' £60m in the likes of adam, downing and carroll. Now if you really want to talk about managers buying "badly".......

Where did we finish in BR'S first season, not much better than in KD's first season in the league and nowhere near in the cups. Is Aspas much better than Downing or Borini much better than Caroll, who was the manager when Suarez was bought? Look at the number of players who were bought by or under BR who hardly performed, Borini, Assaidi, Alberto, Aspas, Ilori, Allen just started to show some worth after almost 3 years, Lambert, Balotelli, do you think Markovic is worth 20m, or Lovren 20m or Lallana 20m?

A foolishly narrow view. It looks very much like Suarez was a huge part of the 2nd place. Now Rodgers' methods deserve lots of credit I agree, but ignoring the large number of failed players just because last year a few of them were in a team that finish 2nd is just silly.

Rodgers has bought a mixture of players that have been very good or total dross, but haven't they all? Mourinho, Ferguson, Wenger, Pellerini, Mancini have all brought in their fair share of cack despite being in the privileged position of established Champ League teams!

Rodgers has a mostly terrible record. Unlike all but one of the people you mentioned. Bad comparison.

Your judging Rodgers on only 3 or 4 transfer windows and in each one he has been denied the opportunity or been unable to bring in his first choice players. The managers i mention above have been in the game for much longer and have for the most part had unlimited funds yet they have still brought in their share of flops.

The main difference is that that the starting position of these teams has been higher with a better quality squad as a base, that means that the likes of Veron, Nani, Anderson, Ozil, Jovetic, Salah, Balotelli (first time round) plus so many other failures slip under the radar!