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From what I can see FSG have increased our sposorship revenue ten fold Stan - the money has clearly been there for players also.. it's more the strategy and the type of players we've been targeting that have held us back. As for growing up with the great teams of years gone by Stan.. football has changed so much, both on and off the field, it's almost unrecognisable  We can't compete with the cities & chavs - Utd to an extent also... in all fairness only a handful of clubs in world football as a whole can. Excluding the rich kids, we are up there with the best of the rest.. Best of the rest, oh dear how the mighty have fallen! Best of the rest reminds me of that line: "when he was up he was up, and when he was down he was down, but when he was in the middle, he was neither up nor down". And here we are suspended in the middle, with little prospect of going up and every prospect of going down! However FSG won't mind too much as long as the loot keeps rolling in, what surprises me though, is the extent to which some fans are prepared to accept and even defend these policies. We're not quite suspended in the middle (yet) closer to a prem second tier with the likes of Arsenal. You are mental if you think we are on Arsenal's level. Consistently champions league, bigger wage structure, more quality players, sign top players. We aren't on their level AT ALL. We are in a premier league third tier more along the lines of what spurs normally are.
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I think you'll find our wages and theres are reasonably similar - they've only won one trophy in the last nine years and rarely finish higher than 4th.... take your blinkers off pal.
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I think you'll find our wages and theres are reasonably similar - they've only won one trophy in the last nine years and rarely finish higher than 4th.... take your blinkers off pal. Wage structures. The difference in the 'better players' in their squad is about 20,000 pound a week if not more. They regularly finish inside champions league places, in fact every year. We have once. And you say I'm wearing blinkers? Look at yourself and your Joke of a statement. Bigger modern stadium already paid for. Top player signed in each of the last 2 years. Salary structure bigger and better. Regular Champions League football, the thing that our TOP target chose Arsenal for over us according to our TOP target himself. You're living in cloud cuckoo land if you think we are on their level. We are closer to spurs. Also rans, try to win a cup, occasionally get into the champions league.
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In that case you could say they're more of a mess and poorly run than we are, given the amount they pay players and their failure to win anything. Arsenal are a great club, but their not up there with the Chavs, City & Utd.. but given there failure to win anything or challenge for the league, you've got to put them more or less in the same bracket as us.
When was the last time they made a real push in either the CL or the league??? I believe we finished second last year by a wisker..
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You are mental if you think we are on Arsenal's level. Consistently champions league, bigger wage structure, more quality players, sign top players. We aren't on their level AT ALL.
We are in a premier league third tier more along the lines of what spurs normally are.
And just for the record, those quality players you mention... It's not much good if they all play the same position - a team of mid fielders and not much else. When was the last time they had a quality keeper or world class striker??? Their defence has been ordinary for years...
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In that case you could say they're more of a mess and poorly run than we are, given the amount they pay players and their failure to win anything. Arsenal are a great club, but their not up there with the Chavs, City & Utd.. but given there failure to win anything or challenge for the league, you've got to put them more or less in the same bracket as us.
When was the last time they made a real push in either the CL or the league??? I believe we finished second last year by a wisker.. I didn't compare them to Chelsea did I? They are second tier as they consistently get champions league and can get top players to come to them over us like our TOP target sanchez who chose the side he believed to be in the superior bracket. I'd take the opinion of arguably the best player in the PL this year over your nonsense with no evidence to back it up any day. Yes one year. As i said, like spurs who also got in the champions league for the 1 year. We are in the third tier. Quite clearly below Arsenal. Arsenal are a second tier, never competing for title as you say, then Chelsea Man City who are competing for the title are the top tier. You've offered absolutely nothing to make Arsenal and Liverpool comparable over the lat 5 years. They've finished higher all but once, get better players, pay bigger wages (which you tried to say were relatively similar but they clearly and Factually out do us), and are seen the world over as in a higher tier. Proof is in the pudding, not in an opinion you can't seem to back up. Take off your blinkers mate.
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No one is happy for us not to be competing at the top, and it's not a case of adjusting our ambitions. You just need to be realistic about our status or you'll be un necessarily devestated every year. FFP will make the rich clubs richer and the rest will be settling for scraps. No opinion expressed...that is simply a fact. Very true, we all want to believe we are up there with the big boys, or even the second tier teams like Arsenal. But the evidence suggest we are not bar one year when we had the 3rd best player in the world that year.
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lol no proof or facts  What has high flying, big spending Arsenal achieved in the last 9 years??? Sweet fanny adams pal - less than lowly Liverpool inFACT.
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lol no proof or facts What has high flying, big spending Arsenal achieved in the last 9 years??? Sweet fanny adams pal - less than lowly Liverpool inFACT. You're correct you have no proofs or facts. I've given you salaries, evidence of our TOP target choosing them above us because he believes them to be a higher tier due to regular champions league football. You've offered nonsense.
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lol no proof or facts What has high flying, big spending Arsenal achieved in the last 9 years??? Sweet fanny adams pal - less than lowly Liverpool inFACT. You're correct you have no proofs or facts. I've given you salaries, evidence of our TOP target choosing them above us because he believes them to be a higher tier due to regular champions league football. You've offered nonsense. oh and the fact they have finished above us in the champs league places every year bar 1 (which they still finished in champs league) recently.
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