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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Well with all your footballing sense I thought maybe you might have been talent spotted?

Anyway, regardless of any of this crap we're spouting, it hasn't gone for him yet. I think he's a good player and would fit our system of play well based on what I have seen in the past of him. You think he's average which I and most people I speak to about football think is wrong. It's all about opinions and for you to say anyone who thinks he would've fit our system lacks footballing sense I'd also wrong.


I'm still waiting for the call Wilki; I've got my list of cliche's at the ready and I've been practicing the art of verbalizing exactly what someone who had never watched football before in their lives could see. I'll fit right in with your MOTD 'experts' who have the insight of a gnat.

Like I already stated I probably went overboard with the footballing sense comment in reaction to so many people suggesting 'Everyone thought he was a good signing', as many of the football news, commentary, and analysis outlets who I consider to have a more balanced, well thought-out (and often in retrospect proven to be correct) called it early that he was an overhyped English player, big fish, small pond, and so he is currently proving to be.

I'd love them, and myself, to be proven wrong and him go on to be a sizeable talent in our ranks (lord knows we need it with our laughable transfer record over the past few years), but he is proving every inch the mediocre player (relative to players at the level we should have been pitching at) many people saw him to be over the summer. Plenty of time for him to improve though.

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Well I'm not sure where you were looking or who you were watching, but everything I read and saw from all football people talking about it thought he'd be a great fit for us with the way we play. No sign of an tone thinking he was an average over hyped English player. I remember some saying he was a big expensive though.

Anyway, he's not doing so well but as you've said, there's plenty of time to improve. I think as the team as a whole improves it will all look a lot better.

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Calamitous! You, over the top? No!

So, if these so called experts are all wrong, which I doubt, and you're right, why are you not on match of the day etc offering you're not over the top analysis? I far from believe all they say but the only thing they might have said against it is the price from what I remember seeing and hearing.

I note wilkij that you're focusing on the footballing sense bit and not producing any evidence to disprove his point on Lallana, why?


Difference of opinion. I think he's a good footballer that'll be a good signing as did most people that I spoke to as did most pundits / experts that I heard talking about it. BRK is basically saying that anyone who thought that has no footballing sense to which I also disagree.

At this moment, he hasn't proven to be a great signing but that doesn't mean he won't or that he's an average player. We over paid for him I agree but, as I've said, I still think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Do you have any thoughts on him or are you just trying to be the post police??

Not trying to be the post police, I just wondered why in a number of posts you focused on something other than producing evidence of Lallana’s prowess as a footballer, since that was the point of the debate, that’s all.
My opinion on Lallana has been aired on a number of occasions. I think he flatters to deceive most of the time, all fancy footwork and very little end product. Also he’s a bit too easily muscled off the ball. For a player of his age and price tag he should be contributing a lot more than he does.

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And who helped Soton to prove that price tag was right then?

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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
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Originally Posted By: wilkij1975
Calamitous! You, over the top? No!

So, if these so called experts are all wrong, which I doubt, and you're right, why are you not on match of the day etc offering you're not over the top analysis? I far from believe all they say but the only thing they might have said against it is the price from what I remember seeing and hearing.

I note wilkij that you're focusing on the footballing sense bit and not producing any evidence to disprove his point on Lallana, why?


Difference of opinion. I think he's a good footballer that'll be a good signing as did most people that I spoke to as did most pundits / experts that I heard talking about it. BRK is basically saying that anyone who thought that has no footballing sense to which I also disagree.

At this moment, he hasn't proven to be a great signing but that doesn't mean he won't or that he's an average player. We over paid for him I agree but, as I've said, I still think he'll prove to be a good signing.

Do you have any thoughts on him or are you just trying to be the post police??

Not trying to be the post police, I just wondered why in a number of posts you focused on something other than producing evidence of Lallana’s prowess as a footballer, since that was the point of the debate, that’s all.
My opinion on Lallana has been aired on a number of occasions. I think he flatters to deceive most of the time, all fancy footwork and very little end product. Also he’s a bit too easily muscled off the ball. For a player of his age and price tag he should be contributing a lot more than he does.


The evidence is very much in favour of that critique. He has been nothing thus far this season.

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