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Nostalgic short-sightedness and short memories. What makes you think Rafa would turn this team around - what makes you think he would drop Gerrard? Rafa was awful for persisting with his favourites - he'd probably resign Kuyt!


Rafa who nearly sold Gerrard twice, stood up to his dressing room bullying and dropped him towards the end of his reign here. If Rafa came back, Gerrard would be kissing Mourinho's ass faster than Balotelli changes hair colour.

Nothing wrong with Kuyt, at least he still has legs to play with, it was criminal that Rodgers sold him in the first place and I'm pretty sure not so long ago Van Gaal was hinting at signing him.


Jesus, I actually more or less agree with one of your posts shocked

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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Nostalgic short-sightedness and short memories. What makes you think Rafa would turn this team around - what makes you think he would drop Gerrard? Rafa was awful for persisting with his favourites - he'd probably resign Kuyt!


Believe me if Rafa came back, Gerrard would be out of the door quicker than a speeding bullet.

It was rumoured at the time of Rafas sacking that either Rafa had to go or Gerrard would.

It stemmed from Rafa not playing Gerrard in his prefered central midfield role, Carra was also upset at not being picked in central defence, and also only being offered a 1 year extension.

Guess what, when Hodgson took over, Carra got a longer contract, and a spot as central defender and Gerrard a spot in central midfield.

And look at how the reign of Hodgson went.

So basically if Rafa came back, Gerrard would leave on a free next summer.

Read Carra and Gerrard autobiography for more info.

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Benitez turned Carragher into a central defender and he was one of the first names on any Rafa team sheet, your talking complete and utter rubbish.

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but Rafa is also ruthless enough to decide when a player is no longer good for the team, no matter how profile he is. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in it.


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Why don't you read Carras autobiography for Carras view on Rafa.

And no Rafa did not turn Carra into a central defender, he was a central defender before Rafa came to the club, however when he scored 2 own goals vs Man Utd, Houllier never played him in central defence ever again, he was moved to right back.

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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Benitez turned Carragher into a central defender and he was one of the first names on any Rafa team sheet, your talking complete and utter rubbish.


That's not the point he's making. The point is that at the end of Rafa's reign, Carra was [oops] off that Rafa was only prepared to give him a 1 year deal, Carra wanted longer. Rafa had already began plans to replace him with Agger and Skrtel being the preferred partnership.

Carra doesn't have a nice word to say about rafa, even to this day, because Rafa wanted to retire him as he was finished as a player, he had started to begin plans to replace Gerrard as well, they both put Rafa's job in jeapordy and made it harder work for him.

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does nobody remember the absolute sh1te we played under rafa? or was that still someone else's fault? he was one of the most negative managers ever had and he bought dossena . rose tinted sh1te, he is a cautious politician type manager that looks at players in robotic terms.thank god he is never coming back is all i can say.

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Originally Posted By: Welsh_Wizard
Why don't you read Carras autobiography for Carras view on Rafa.

And no Rafa did not turn Carra into a central defender, he was a central defender before Rafa came to the club, however when he scored 2 own goals vs Man Utd, Houllier never played him in central defence ever again, he was moved to right back.


The only reason he played centre half in that games against Utd was because of injuries, he was a full back until Rafa took over, Houllier preferred to play Biscan and or Traore alongside Hyypia before he left.

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Originally Posted By: Chris2402


The only reason he played centre half in that games against Utd was because of injuries, he was a full back until Rafa took over, Houllier preferred to play Biscan and or Traore alongside Hyypia before he left.


The dream partnership was Henchoz and Hyppia, we haven't had a great centre back pairing since.

Yep, Carra started out as a central midfielder, he was [oops], but the club didn't want to let go of him, so he then became a full back, he was [oops] and was very nearly sold, Rafa moved him to centre back as Finnan was miles better than him at right back. He was good, but I do often wonder whether it was Hyppia who was carrying him, as after he left, our defence went to [oops] and has never fully recovered.

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Hyypia and Henchoz partnership was quality, but Carragher was also part of that defence, along with Markus Babbel.

You cannot dismiss his influence or ability, trying to just shows a clear lack of knowledge. I'm guessing you don't rate John Terry either?

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