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I don't share you confident because the defense is still a big problem and it was the same last year. BR seems unable to fix this issue it means we wont be at the top table.

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I voted no. One good season doesn't make him a good manager.We are without our two best players we had last season, and I think any team would have a bit of trouble with such problem. However, Rodgers seem to have no idea how to win a game tactically without his big guns there firing. As for transfers,it's like playing Russian roulette.Perhaps he's shackled by FSG and their policies, and the problem is not Rodgers. If that's the case, he should have the b@lls to at least try to make a change for the sake of the club and his job.

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Originally Posted By: Scouseman8
I voted no. One good season doesn't make him a good manager.We are without our two best players we had last season, and I think any team would have a bit of trouble with such problem. However, Rodgers seem to have no idea how to win a game tactically without his big guns there firing. As for transfers,it's like playing Russian roulette.Perhaps he's shackled by FSG and their policies, and the problem is not Rodgers. If that's the case, he should have the b@lls to at least try to make a change for the sake of the club and his job.


You could argue last season was not a good season a better manager would have won the league with Suarez in that form.


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we are not a training academy for wannabe managers


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Originally Posted By: Brian
we are not a training academy for wannabe managers


Unfortunately we are


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Originally Posted By: MyKneeGrows
I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.

We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.

Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.

Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.

Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.

They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.



+1

Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around.

I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely?

Sadly not.

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Originally Posted By: Scouseman8
I voted no. One good season doesn't make him a good manager.We are without our two best players we had last season, and I think any team would have a bit of trouble with such problem. However, Rodgers seem to have no idea how to win a game tactically without his big guns there firing. As for transfers,it's like playing Russian roulette.Perhaps he's shackled by FSG and their policies, and the problem is not Rodgers. If that's the case, he should have the b@lls to at least try to make a change for the sake of the club and his job.



+1

Great post

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I think he is absolutely the right man for the job albeit a bit too political for my liking.
Anyone who can take us to 2nd and on the edge of Winning the league will be capable of doing it again.
He has taken a gamble that has not worked and is being slated for it because of the injury to Sturridge giving him little or no choice but to play experienced players. All of those experienced players are letting him down with perhaps the exception of Skrtel.

We have played poorly at times but we were spoiled last season with the brand of football he got us playing. There were very few sides that could match us last season and I am sure once he gets movement up front again it will all start clicking again.

This guy may yet get a tune out of Balotelli. Potentially the likes of Can/Moreno/Lovren/Markovic/Origi/Manquilo/Sterling/Coutinho & Sturridge will form the main part of the team for the next 7 or 8 years. They have barely had 7 or 8 weeks together and everyone wants instant success.

BR is very smart. The politician in him told us all that the plan was a year ahead of schedule. As such we were probably not expecting CL football this quickly. Binning BR now would be a huge mistake if we are trying to build something that is going to last.

As fans we must look at what the guy is capable of both good and bad. I don't think it gets worse than that performance at Newcastle and it probably doesn't get better than the performances v Arsenal and Man Utd last season in which 8 goals were scored and none by Suarez and 2 by Sturridge.

We are probably now going to enter a phase of horrible football whilst he puts this right before entertaining again.

I just hope everyone bears with it because he really does have what it takes.

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Originally Posted By: Brian
we are not a training academy for wannabe managers


Interesting point actually, we have in the last 3 appointments, gone for managers that would not have had a chance of getting a shot at top European teams. But then again we aren't a top European team any more.

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Originally Posted By: Top4
Originally Posted By: MyKneeGrows
I don't believe he is the man to take us forward and I don't believe a club of our size should have to wait for a manager to learn his trade with us.

We will not win anything if our defence doesn't improve, he's into his third season now and it appears to be getting worse each season. He's been given the funds to address the situation but is obviously incapable of rectifying it. This has to be my biggest issue with Brendan.

Secondly, his transfer record - it's appalling. The money wasted by him is insane, Vish - one of your arguments against having a brand new stadium was that we wouldn't be able to remain competitive in the transfer market - Id rather we just brought in players from our academy and used all transfer money on a new stadium.

Finally, your question misses a vital point - FSG.

Are FSG the owners we need to take us forward? No.

They lack ambition, a real vision of what it will take to get us back to the top and the funds to do so. Back to the second point I'm not excusing BR's transfer record, I believe certain managers would do better under these conditions, but it's obvious the interference of the committee isn't helping.



+1

Very balanced post. A lot of blame to go around.

I still have a glimmer of hope he can turn it around as I hope we all do, but do I think it likely?

Sadly not.


The thing is everyone almost to a man (and woman) on here was absolutely creaming themselves over the signings we made. The only one I really did not want was Lallana especially at that price. I agree that FSG may not be the right owners but which club out there has the right owners? How does everyone want their club run?

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