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The other point about the stadium is people see it from their own personal point of view over the next few years. They don't see the long term or see it from the perspective of the club. A stadium is not like signing a player it lasts for over a hundred years. In 2080 when we are long gone Liverpool FC will still be here and so will the stadium. For me personally it's far better the club do nothing or re- develop but I like to think I put the club before my own personal requirements. The stadium re-development is a cheap fix to allow FSG to market the club for a sale leaving the club hamstrung for all time.
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For ALL time? Wow, that's quite a long time.
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For ALL time? Wow, that's quite a long time. Ok fair enough i exaggerated just 200 years not all time.
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As explained many times it's not just about cramming 58k seats into an old ground and small footprint that does not equal arsenals 60k just because the seat numbers acre the same, It's a disgrace Liverpool, FC one of the worlds top clubs have a patched up old stadium. It's also about giving us long term flexibility to increase seats in the future, It's true watch vish says about the increased completion for champions league places which is precisely why the organic option won't work even if we redevelop anfield we need new long term financing to bridge the gap caused by Liverpool's mistakes over the past 20 years. I'm glad you pointed this out because it's just so very naive to think that it's only about seats. Those who think just increasing seat capacity in anfield equates to the revenue and future proofing that a new stadium provides haven't got a clue! And unfortunately as we have elected to go for the cheaper option, they'll see it all too clearly when the redev is done and from second one we will already be behind And who says you have a clue?
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As explained many times it's not just about cramming 58k seats into an old ground and small footprint that does not equal arsenals 60k just because the seat numbers acre the same, It's a disgrace Liverpool, FC one of the worlds top clubs have a patched up old stadium. It's also about giving us long term flexibility to increase seats in the future, It's true watch vish says about the increased completion for champions league places which is precisely why the organic option won't work even if we redevelop anfield we need new long term financing to bridge the gap caused by Liverpool's mistakes over the past 20 years. I'm glad you pointed this out because it's just so very naive to think that it's only about seats. Those who think just increasing seat capacity in anfield equates to the revenue and future proofing that a new stadium provides haven't got a clue! And unfortunately as we have elected to go for the cheaper option, they'll see it all too clearly when the redev is done and from second one we will already be behind And who says you have a clue? He is right whether you want to admit it or not its your call. Increasing the seats will be great short term but the stadium is old, it is not marketable no matter how much make up fsg want to add to it. A new stadium will bring significant revenue its not just about seats and match day revenue. Its about sponsorship deals, naming rights, hosting spectacular events like the champions league final, these things will never happen with Anfield no matter how colourful they want to paint it, it will still be old.
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As explained many times it's not just about cramming 58k seats into an old ground and small footprint that does not equal arsenals 60k just because the seat numbers acre the same, It's a disgrace Liverpool, FC one of the worlds top clubs have a patched up old stadium. It's also about giving us long term flexibility to increase seats in the future, It's true watch vish says about the increased completion for champions league places which is precisely why the organic option won't work even if we redevelop anfield we need new long term financing to bridge the gap caused by Liverpool's mistakes over the past 20 years. I'm glad you pointed this out because it's just so very naive to think that it's only about seats. Those who think just increasing seat capacity in anfield equates to the revenue and future proofing that a new stadium provides haven't got a clue! And unfortunately as we have elected to go for the cheaper option, they'll see it all too clearly when the redev is done and from second one we will already be behind And who says you have a clue? He is right whether you want to admit it or not its your call. Increasing the seats will be great short term but the stadium is old, it is not marketable no matter how much make up fsg want to add to it. A new stadium will bring significant revenue its not just about seats and match day revenue. Its about sponsorship deals, naming rights, hosting spectacular events like the champions league final, these things will never happen with Anfield no matter how colourful they want to paint it, it will still be old. You don't have to believe if you don't want to but additional seats especially corporate is going to increase our current match day revenue significantly, I think by at least 50%. That would cover a big share if not all the financing for the redevelopment. Of course a new stadium will generate more revenue, but not enough to cover for the additional costs even over the long time. If that was possible, any sensible investor would have done it. The only owners that could do such a thing is those who have excess capital and want to do it for reasons other than financial as investing in football in today's environment makes no sense, there are much better investments.
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Unfortuently the latter type of owner is what Liverpool need vish whole argument against the new stadium is that we can't afford one basically. That purely based on investment return you would redevelop the stadium. Maybe but if I wanted an investment return I would not invest in premiershio football. I would also like to know after the naming rights for the main stand how much capital are FSG putting at risk ? It looks practically nothing to me everything us being financed by the fans or sponsors. Whatever way you look at it the outcome is we are left with a small outdated stadium with as many seats crammed in as the designers can shove in. That is simply not good enough for this once proud club but now we are third rate at everything we do including the stadium.
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