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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that. To be honest, I don't want to even try to compete with United when it comes to spending. I'm happy to let them spunk £60 million on 30-year-old players, and I'll be the one laughing on the sidelines when they implode, again, and realize that it wasn't all Moyes' fault. As for us, I think Rodgers is kind of a two steps forward, one step back manager. Last year we had a settled squad and reaped the benefits. This summer was full of upheaval, so I fully expected a transitional year. I'd be over the moon with 4th, but 5th or 6th is more likely. Then I expect us to kick on again next year once our new signings have found their feet. Why is this year a transitional year, we came 2nd last season and only one player is gone, unless we were a one player team. Not getting into CL would be a major setback IMO. How can United move from 7th to top 4 while we regress by 3 places, they have more new players and a new manager. BR needs to earn his salary and prove he is worthy of LFC, otherwise he would be a one season wonder like Pardew a couple of seasons back and Hodgson at Fulham.
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Just a small caveat to where we are, so close to top. Who have we played ....beaten by city shoulve beat toffees and beat spuds. Weve not played many top sides and are off the pace. I know the epl is an any given sunday league but imo we are blessed to be within a win of ecl places. I look to top and see chelsea have played both city and gunners and are miles away. City have played us and Chelsea and are ahead. The way I see it is given our fixtures we SHOULD be near the top. City and Chelsea would be expected to put away whu, everton (granted we were unlucky) and they have put away villa. So although we are close the reality is were miles away. We wont take points from city chelsea and id take draws vs utd and gunners. .....on current form but we can only get better
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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that. To be honest, I don't want to even try to compete with United when it comes to spending. I'm happy to let them spunk £60 million on 30-year-old players, and I'll be the one laughing on the sidelines when they implode, again, and realize that it wasn't all Moyes' fault. As for us, I think Rodgers is kind of a two steps forward, one step back manager. Last year we had a settled squad and reaped the benefits. This summer was full of upheaval, so I fully expected a transitional year. I'd be over the moon with 4th, but 5th or 6th is more likely. Then I expect us to kick on again next year once our new signings have found their feet. Why is this year a transitional year, we came 2nd last season and only one player is gone, unless we were a one player team. Not getting into CL would be a major setback IMO. How can United move from 7th to top 4 while we regress by 3 places, they have more new players and a new manager. BR needs to earn his salary and prove he is worthy of LFC, otherwise he would be a one season wonder like Pardew a couple of seasons back and Hodgson at Fulham. It's a transitional year because: - We lost our best player and replaced him with a loose cannon - We're playing with a totally new back 4 (except for Sakho, but he too has to adjust to new defensive partners) - We have about 87 new squad players (quantity rather than quality) - We've had to tweak our system to compensate for losing Suarez - Stevie G is one year closer to the glue factory, and Henderson is basically having to carry around his carcass all over the pitch/clean up after his mess because he can't really shield the back line anymore If you honestly thought we could kick on and challenge again this year, you're delusional. It was always going to be difficult losing Suarez, because not only did he score a shedload of goals, but he was so central to our style of play. The sides around us spent a lot of money this summer, and finishing 4th will be a mighty impressive achievement if we can manage it.
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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that. To be honest, I don't want to even try to compete with United when it comes to spending. I'm happy to let them spunk £60 million on 30-year-old players, and I'll be the one laughing on the sidelines when they implode, again, and realize that it wasn't all Moyes' fault. As for us, I think Rodgers is kind of a two steps forward, one step back manager. Last year we had a settled squad and reaped the benefits. This summer was full of upheaval, so I fully expected a transitional year. I'd be over the moon with 4th, but 5th or 6th is more likely. Then I expect us to kick on again next year once our new signings have found their feet. Why is this year a transitional year, we came 2nd last season and only one player is gone, unless we were a one player team. Not getting into CL would be a major setback IMO. How can United move from 7th to top 4 while we regress by 3 places, they have more new players and a new manager. BR needs to earn his salary and prove he is worthy of LFC, otherwise he would be a one season wonder like Pardew a couple of seasons back and Hodgson at Fulham. It's a transitional year because: - We lost our best player and replaced him with a loose cannon - We're playing with a totally new back 4 (except for Sakho, but he too has to adjust to new defensive partners) - We have about 87 new squad players (quantity rather than quality) - We've had to tweak our system to compensate for losing Suarez - Stevie G is one year closer to the glue factory, and Henderson is basically having to carry around his carcass all over the pitch/clean up after his mess because he can't really shield the back line anymore If you honestly thought we could kick on and challenge again this year, you're delusional. It was always going to be difficult losing Suarez, because not only did he score a shedload of goals, but he was so central to our style of play. The sides around us spent a lot of money this summer, and finishing 4th will be a mighty impressive achievement if we can manage it. WHY??
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Why is it everytime it goes t1ts up, suddenly its a transitional year? The excuse is starting to wear thin, I mean anorexic!
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We've had to tweak our system to compensate for losing Suarez
Why? we played well when he wasn't in the team due to the ban last year?????
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"If you honestly thought we could kick on and challenge again this year, you're delusional"
Sounds like a defeatist's comment, did you think the same way the season after we finished second with Benitez??? or was that transitional as well??
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I am happy to stick with Rodgers but it's clear watching city and Chelsea this weekend we have no class and there is no excuse for that after last year we should have pressed forward. Vish is mentioning FFP fair enough but the answer to that is to get our turnover on a par with Man United our current plans give us no chance to do that. To be honest, I don't want to even try to compete with United when it comes to spending. I'm happy to let them spunk £60 million on 30-year-old players, and I'll be the one laughing on the sidelines when they implode, again, and realize that it wasn't all Moyes' fault. As for us, I think Rodgers is kind of a two steps forward, one step back manager. Last year we had a settled squad and reaped the benefits. This summer was full of upheaval, so I fully expected a transitional year. I'd be over the moon with 4th, but 5th or 6th is more likely. Then I expect us to kick on again next year once our new signings have found their feet. Why is this year a transitional year, we came 2nd last season and only one player is gone, unless we were a one player team. Not getting into CL would be a major setback IMO. How can United move from 7th to top 4 while we regress by 3 places, they have more new players and a new manager. BR needs to earn his salary and prove he is worthy of LFC, otherwise he would be a one season wonder like Pardew a couple of seasons back and Hodgson at Fulham. It's a transitional year because: - We lost our best player and replaced him with a loose cannon - We're playing with a totally new back 4 (except for Sakho, but he too has to adjust to new defensive partners) - We have about 87 new squad players (quantity rather than quality) - We've had to tweak our system to compensate for losing Suarez - Stevie G is one year closer to the glue factory, and Henderson is basically having to carry around his carcass all over the pitch/clean up after his mess because he can't really shield the back line anymore If you honestly thought we could kick on and challenge again this year, you're delusional. It was always going to be difficult losing Suarez, because not only did he score a shedload of goals, but he was so central to our style of play. The sides around us spent a lot of money this summer, and finishing 4th will be a mighty impressive achievement if we can manage it. The only side that spent more than us is United, you can add Arsenal if you condider net spend. Yes we could have expected a challenge, why is that delusional, we cannot be a one man team and all the money we got for his sale was spent back. I am not saying we could have won the league, but 6 points below our last year performance is not satisfactory at all. We shouldn't lose against teams like Villa at home or even WH away, their squad cost much lower than ours.
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First 6 - 10 games of the season, anyone can beat anyone. You have to take into account the fact it was a world cup year which hit the top teams a little harder - it's no coincidence the results in the league as a whole have been on the pisss at this early stage. There are exceptions, but normal service will resume 
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The only team that is playing the way they should is Chelsea. United, Arsenal, City, Everton, and ourselves have been very inconsistent.
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