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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Heartbreaking


Very insightful, http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29385217 on Emirates stadium cost then and now and the stress of doing it.

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That will all be ignored or dismissed by the resident stadium expert eek

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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
That will all be ignored or dismissed by the resident stadium expert eek


As I have told vish a thousand times central London is not Liverpool Manchester city are a better comparison the only reason vish and yourself don't want a new stadium us you know you would never visit it and want the (what we now know to be small differential) to be spent on the team which you watch on TV a completely selfish position. I am not a stadium expert but I have gone the trouble of watching my team for real for the last 50 years and I understand the north west regional economy where Liverpool FC operate predominantly spectator wise. On another thread vish is lecturing on financial fair play assuming that remains long term should we not be aiming to get our turnover as high as possible ?


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I didn't know construction cost were so small up north. Looks like you've out smarted me again because of my lack of Knowledge of the north east. All hail the match goer!!!

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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
I didn't know construction cost were so small up north. Looks like you've out smarted me again because of my lack of Knowledge of the north east. All hail the match goer!!!


Construction cost is lower in the north but land prices Liverpool vs central London are on another planet this is the main difference land at anfield or Walton would be peanuts just like eastlands in Manchester


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Arsenal paid £120m for land and £400m for construction. So compare just the construction costs then stan, how much cheaper do you believe it would be in Liverpool taking into account inflation?

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Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
Arsenal paid £120m for land and £400m for construction. So compare just the construction costs then stan, how much cheaper do you believe it would be in Liverpool taking into account inflation?


It's not just building materials is it ? The main cost in London is roads and rail access and as I recall aresnal had a lot of headaches. We can only go on facts and we know the commonwealth stadium in an area very similar to anfield in the north of England was about £130m I am assuming the land was free but that might include land also. Everton are also taking about £200m in Walton which us about 3 miles or so from anfield. London is a mega rich congested capital city Liverpool is one of the most deprived areas of Europe but is being regenerated by public and private capital so if we can't build a stadium now we never will but we have owners who won't spend a cent more than they need to

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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: boxmonkey
Arsenal paid £120m for land and £400m for construction. So compare just the construction costs then stan, how much cheaper do you believe it would be in Liverpool taking into account inflation?


It's not just building materials is it ? The main cost in London is roads and rail access and as I recall aresnal had a lot of headaches. We can only go on facts and we know the commonwealth stadium in an area very similar to anfield in the north of England was about £130m I am assuming the land was free but that might include land also. Everton are also taking about £200m in Walton which us about 3 miles or so from anfield. London is a mega rich congested capital city Liverpool is one of the most deprived areas of Europe but is being regenerated by public and private capital so if we can't build a stadium now we never will but we have owners who won't spend a cent more than they need to


No it's not only building material but land, but you also missed how much it would cost today and how hard it was to compete for CL qualification when there were less competitive teams. Yes it would be good to get somebody to gift 400m but until then....Nobody knows if Everton have done a proper estimation, let's see if their plan comes up, I doubt it, we'll see.

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Vish the basic problem is when moores sold out we needed someone to pump equity into the club because we had fallen so far behind Manchester United. For whatever reason that never happened now we are self financing and that unfortunately will not be enough Manchester United are not going to stand still while we catch up. You keep using the example of arsenal but they are nothing like Liverpool's situation I believe the numbers for Everton's ground are accurate based on the best example we have the commonwealth stadium in Manchester you can't argue with that they are facts.


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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Vish the basic problem is when moores sold out we needed someone to pump equity into the club because we had fallen so far behind Manchester United. For whatever reason that never happened now we are self financing and that unfortunately will not be enough Manchester United are not going to stand still while we catch up. You keep using the example of arsenal but they are nothing like Liverpool's situation I believe the numbers for Everton's ground are accurate based on the best example we have the commonwealth stadium in Manchester you can't argue with that they are facts.


They are facts but a decade ago, for Everton, I don't even think they have done any design yet, so IMO, it's a very approximate estimate, unless you have seen plans of course, I haven't. What I understand closer to reality is 2 stands costing 150m, I cannot understand how a new stadium will cost 200m.

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