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As I said earlier, if we continue having results as we are now, even the new stands will be too much. Look at Newcastle who already have 54k seats, why are they not ahead of us? Most important thing is to be successful on the pitch and invest in infrastructure that's going to bring revenue more than the cash outlay.

Vish we can't plan for our long term future based in the results of a few recent games. Either we are a club with a long term vision or we are not

If we are we need to plan and invest accordingly and shape our future not react to it. But that will never happen with FSG I think that's evident to all of us.

A few recent games? The last time we won a major trophy was in 2005, ie, 9 years back, and the league more than 20 years ago. I don't call that recent though our recent results are just confirming our demise.

So we set our plans accordingly eh vish ?

Yep, we have to spend according to our means, ie, eat what we can digest, else we die of indigestion. Simple really and nobody does otherwise.

Well with FSG our means are not very high so we can look forward to the rest of time being pretty much as we are or less probably as the likes of spurs and Everton catch up. We have no chance of catching United or city not ever. Hope you and the FSG groupies are satisfied with yourself

Not sure how Spurs and especially Everton will catch up and it's not with a stadium that we will catch up with United and City but with success. Chelsea has a smaller stadium than us but looks like they have caught us already on revenues at least.

Chelsea are backed by Russian money vish as you know and based in London they have more scope for corporate and pretty sure they have plans for a new stadium eventually Liverpool need to follow the fan gathering path of United and city if we are to be successful. It's also not just about the stadium the players we are signing look lower tier also. Not sure any of thus matters as I don't think it's our plans to rise to the very top of British football anymore we are striking for the optimum ROCE as a goal which is pretty much means we will stay where we are now at best.

So what has been the ROCE so far, we have lost almost 100m over 2 years? And why Chelsea hasn't done their new shiny stadium yet, the Russian has been around for a decade now, no? To build or rebuild your brand you look for success on the pitch and means to maximise your bottom line to be able to invest in players otherwise you will not be successful. Wht didn't City owners invest in increasing the size of their stadium as soon as they arrived? Because first you become competitive as a priority, not the other way round. Why didn't Arsenal started buolding their stadium only after a continuous period of success and not before that? Anyway, most people who use their brain would understand this.

You do build gradually Vish quite correct as City are doing and lets remember their fan base was nothing like Liverpool and stay ins,t. But you give yourself scope to expand capacity wise if United can get 76k today pretty sure Liverpool could or very close to it. Yet the greatest we can ever do is 70k and I dont believe that will happen not for many years and united and city will be beyond that by then. We are limiting ourselves to below our upper limit from day one which might suit FSG as they can force the price up. No doubt Vish you will be happy at that outcome because on the odd time you come to england you might stand more chance of a ticket. Try to think of the club not yourself