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You said the fans in Istanbul made no difference despite not being there I was they and I can tell you they did make a difference and the players said so, You also said the fans in Athens were inadequate again you were not there so you have no means if backing up what you say. A football club us about people always has been and hopefully always will be until the day it's broadcast from a TV studio.

What a load of BS, I asked that if they made that kind of difference, why didn't it work in Athens? Of course fans in the stadium are important, but the way you talk is way out of proportion, as usual.

Vish you were not in the attaturk or were you on that night in 2005. If you were not there how on earth would you know? There is no scientific proof of course but if you are going to be like that then you would go through life never accepting anything unless it was supported by banks of data. I was there that night and I swear in that second half once Gerrard got that header and the team built up a head of steam the power of that crowd was almost supernatural and three quarters of the stadium was Liverpool fans. People do matter and you can call BS at me all you like it just makes you look all the smaller