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Maybe we should all take everything stan says as gospel then

I agree fully but i cannot have a normal conversation with someone who doesn't take time to read opposing views or acknowledge fact.

I too am very passionate about my view on the direction the club should take and i certainly will not be changing it. It is impossible to put yourself into someone else's shoes if that someone else keeps glorifying himself because he gets to go to matches.

Sorry Top4, whilst i agree that we have opposing views, perhaps you should address Stanley and explain to him that he is not "the great kahuna" he seems to think he is.

He is a retired accountant and a Liverpool fan. No different to Vish, myself, box, you...etc. no matter how important he thinks him and his views are, they are no more relevant than ours.

Well said Marko. We all have differing views and are all passionate LFC fans.

I fail to see how we can match or better man united / Man City unless we have comparable or better facilities than them. I dont think thats an unreasonable assertion. The only way I can see we can do better is if we consistently (and by some way) better them on the field to such an extent the success overtakes the physical size of the club. But we will have to do this every year and for all time and with the handicap of lower transfer budgets. Forgive me but that seems a tall order to me. In which those who would want a reduced facility at Liverpool are accepting of the clubs reduced long term capability. And for what ? To protect an owner they have never met, never will meet and who probably sees them as no more than commodities to enrich himself. Maybe I am getting old because thats not football club support as I know it.

Thats fine, but you must understand, just because you fail to see our reasoning or belief for the way forward does nit make your opinion more valid or more correct.

We've outspent united in the last 20 years of the premier league. It's not all about the money.

I don't think anyone is marking opinions whether they are correct or not marko. But I believe unless Liverpool can match our opponents then over time we will slip behind and given we are already behind today, in ten years that gap will be forever unassailable.

When I talk about spending money I don't just mean on players this is the whole point I am making and have always made

Actually we finished above united and Arsenal...who's to say we wont do it again?

No one I think and hope we will. But if we don't invest in facilities then we will have to continue to do so for the next 20 years at least just to maintain our current status never mind bridge the gap